Well I finally broke down and bought some racks for my 4 wheelers. I've been wanting some to help put corn out and mainly for dove hunting, due to having to tote water for my black lab that gets hot Fast. Found a set of new universal front and rear racks off Ebay made by Best Choice Products for $115 shipped. Got them in and put on yesterday. Feel strong and sturdy, trust me I will find out. Only two issues: two of the bolts for the rear rack were too long for where I wanted to place the mounting plates so I had to cut them shorter, second the rear rack extended a lot further off the back of the 4 wheeler than I wanted. Having seen this on a buddy's 4 wheeler and how his rear would squat down real bad with any kind of weight on it, I slide the rack forward 4.5" and cut out a new slot for the rear upright bar on the 4 wheeler. Doing this also gives me the ability to make some board to drop in the old slot for the upright to keep items from sliding forward.