let's talk tractors

[LabLuvR]

Ain't that the damn truth.

[buckshot1224]

Ain't that the damn truth.

you got nearly as much money in that blue toy as we got in that whole rig

You'd be shocked if I told you what dad has in that whole rig and what all I do with it.

[LabLuvR]

Yea but how many dall rigs do you have there money man???

[buckshot1224]

Yea but how many dall rigs do you have there money man???

None

They are dad's

I just operate them

........and what is "dall"? Little mexico english?

[ProvidenceSwamper]

or you are bushhogging in virgin territory and having the bucket close to the ground keeps you from tearing up the bushhog; when you hit a 7" diameter stump with the bucket instead of the bushhog

Very true. Just have to watch out for the bucket in tight places or you will whop the hell out of a tree or something.

[JABIII]

2WD? Really?

You are cutting your ability to plant in half. A place like BG, has a short enough window as it is to get shit done right. Halve it with a 2WD tractor and you get what you have always gotten...

[FHF]

4wd is a must if you are dealing with duck ponds.

[buckshot1224]

2WD? Really?

You are cutting your ability to plant in half. A place like BG, has a short enough window as it is to get shit done right. Halve it with a 2WD tractor and you get what you have always gotten...

if you are talking 2wd 60hp vs 4wd 60hp.........I agree

but if you are talking 4wd 60hp vs 2wd 100hp........disagree

Type of land depends largely also. I see BG as being fine with 90-110hp 2wd.

The rig above will plant 45 acres a day with no problem. That same tractor with single rear wheels will roll out 30-35 acres a day with a no till rig. Maybe not what a 90hp 4wd would do but it isn't half. Why by a 4wd when you can spend less for a bigger tractor and have less to break?

[buckshot1224]

guess I think wrong for you plantation/impoundment guys......

I'll stick to row cropping, deer plots and a duck pond in the sand land

[Clemsonwoodie]

if you are talking 2wd 60hp vs 4wd 60hp.........I agree

but if you are talking 4wd 60hp vs 2wd 100hp........disagree

Type of land depends largely also. I see BG as being fine with 90-110hp 2wd.

The rig above will plant 45 acres a day with no problem. That same tractor with single rear wheels will roll out 30-35 acres a day with a no till rig. Maybe not what a 90hp 4wd would do but it isn't half. Why by a 4wd when you can spend less for a bigger tractor and have less to break?

Yep.
Plus those front tires are a lot cheaper to replace on the 2wd vs the 4wd. Up until we got the big Blue one we used the 4440 to everything from digging peanuts to bedding tobacco land. The larger 2wd drives will fool you on what you think they can do.

[Smilee]

5E series Deere is what ya need. 83-101 HP models. MFWD, shuttle shift. Easy to match current row width. Fuel economy on mine is awesome even with a chisel at 4 mph in hard red clay. Very user friendly controls and cab comfort. Competitive cost, 0% for 48 months, along with the reliability of a Deere.

[LabLuvR]

Boys 4WD is not costly on a tractor. You don't have to run it in 4WD all the time. Hell I haven't had an issue in 6 years with my 4WD. And, tire wear due to 4WD is non existant operating on soil in my experiences.

Also, from what I have read, when you buy a tractor with 4wd it's like getting five more horsepower. You may not need 4WD all the time, but the times you it's worth its weight in gold.

The way to buy a tractor is to:
A. Decide on what HP you need
B. Decide on one, or two brands at most
C. Figure out which model
D. Be patient and scour sources such as Craigslist in and out of state

There are some damn good deals on newer tractors with low hours out there if you are patient. My recent purchase is a good example, and just today I spoke with a neighbor who is selling her Kubota 4WD L3940 with only 308 hours at a bargain basement price.You get a like new tractor at one hell of a discount and not much can be wrong with a tractor with very low hours.

[Southernduck]

4wd is real nice in a lot of situations. I have torn apart front ends in both a 7810 and a 7410 both with over 5000hrs and loaders. Handling 2500 1500-pound round bales a summer is hard on shit. That said I don't think 4wd is that big a maintenance nightmare. Buckshot just knows what sand does to things and thats why he strays.

The plantation I currently take care of has a JD6420 and a JD 6140D and both are strong tractors but I much prefer the 6420 for the transmission and size to hp ratio. The 6140 is a shitload of power in a lightweight frame which translates to a lot of lost power. I personally think the 6000 series JD is the best tractor for the work you describe and if you are playing with duck ponds do yourself a favor and get MFWD. Look at the late 80s to early90s JDs if you want something relatively easy to work on. They are great tractors.


JAB, how was planting corn on top of 500+ hp? I am jealous

[2thDoc]

A loader is VERY helpful when you make a turn and the front wheel falls off.......

pro tip

[Blakeley]

Take a look at the JD 5083E. We picked up one last year to replace a worn out 5410 and it is very impressive. We also have a JD 6410 that is old and will be replaced soon. Either of those series tractors will do what you need.

[Clemsonwoodie]

Take a look at the JD 5083E. We picked up one last year to replace a worn out 5410 and it is very impressive. We also have a JD 6410 that is old and will be replaced soon. Either of those series tractors will do what you need.

That 5410 is a great lil tractor. It pulls a 6' Great Plains no till like its not back there.

[JABIII]

SD, it was a nice ride. We had an International 4366 for 15 years. Twice as big with only 225hp. What a POS that tractor was...

[LabLuvR]

Why in the hell did you keep it for 15 years?

[JABIII]

It was paid for. The problem with it was that it would snap an axle in a heartbeat. You had to be careful at every turn. You can imagine how many turns a day you were making with that beast. We had an IH 1066 (110hp) that we kept for 25 years. It was a tough tractor. Unfortunately it was only 2wd which made it tough to work in the ponds much of the time.

[LabLuvR]

Snap an axle not just once but mulitple times??? Jeesh! I wonder what was wrong elsewhere, if anything, that caused multiple issues. You can't be as hard on your equipment as Toofdoc.