10 cat limit

[Duck Tape]

You come on here and ask for opinions that you really could care less about just to make us feel like our tax dollars are going to good use and that we actually still have some faith in our legislation. If our legislators worried about shit that really was important our tax dollars wouldn't be wasted to worry about a damn catfish or a turkey limit or ATV registration or changing seasons and wasting money on what you would call "research". Schools and roads you say? What road have you helped pave? Or what taxes have you slipped by us.

GHR, You seriously don't know me. I hate government much worse than you ever will. I have to live it daily.

I don't care how you feel.

I don't expect you to have any faith in government. I certainly have lost all faith in our federal government. My local govt raises taxes every year. I blast them frequently.

State legislators deal with many types of bills. Wildlife bills catch your attention. Go to the website and research my votes. Find tax increases I supported. You can't.

[Glenn]

Anybody know if Hardee's will low carb that new philly cheese steak thickburger?

[Murray]

Keep up the good fight against increasing taxes and goverment spending/growth.


In the grand scheme, the catfish bill is not important, but I think you ALREADY know which side to be on.

[Bigtimber2]

Second largest highway system in the nation, yet lowest gas tax for road/bridge maintenance. SCDOT is in disarray. The crumbling infrastructure is affecting commerce more year.

Yet instead of tackling the major issues a catfish debates. It's no one legislator's fault just a dang shame a conservative state is so backwards at times.

[BigBallin]

Now we made it to higher fuel taxes???why dont we just use the money we got right...Stick to whats important here...the catfish

[Glenn]

Second largest highway system in the nation, yet lowest gas tax for road/bridge maintenance. SCDOT is in disarray. The crumbling infrastructure is affecting commerce more year.

Yet instead of tackling the major issues a catfish debates. It's no one legislator's fault just a dang shame a conservative state is so backwards at times.

Conservative state.

That'n makes me laugh.

[Duck Tape]

We put $750 million new money for roads in last years budget. Start a road thread somewhere else.

This is a freshwater fishing catfish thread limited to Santee Cooper.

Continue discussion.

[BigBallin]

The interesting thing to see is in a few years when these lakes are like a farm pond for stud catfish and bass, bream, and crappie are harder to catch, will we drop the limit of both size and creel on catfish or just reduce the amount of gamefish kept and increase the size limit.

[DRDUCK]

Where dat 3/4 billion comin from? Off topic but still. Lots of green

[Duck Tape]

Where dat 3/4 billion comin from? Off topic but still. Lots of green

$500,000,000 bonds
43,000,000 dedicated annually from auto sales tax previously going to general fund
a chunk of one time surplus money in last years budget
a little federal match

[Bigtimber2]

That's over a 10 year period. That's like buying $1.50 worth of gas to drive across the state.

[DRDUCK]

Okay, thanks DT

[Duck Tape]

That's over a 10 year period. That's like buying $1.50 worth of gas to drive across the state.

Payback might be 10 yrs but spending is right now.

What do you want? Increased gas tax?

[triplebeard]

maybe next they can get rid of all the stumps in sparkleberry so I can run it without hitting stuff!

They'd just put a limit on those, too, PM.

[Bigtimber2]

Payback might be 10 yrs but spending is right now.

What do you want? Increased gas tax?

Before I answer that, do you think the General Assembly has adequately funded roads and bridges the past 2 decades? If you do why is SC often ranked as one of the states with the worse roads.

Next is SC placed at an economic disadvantage when attempting to attract new businesses when Georgia and NC roads are in much better condition.

What will the plan be as so many deficient bridges are deemed unsafe and immediate funding is needed to repair or rebuild.

[Duck Tape]

Since you insist on dissin the cats...
Agency General Funds
Senate 13,077,248
House 21,671,006
Codification of Laws & Legislative Council 3,641,297
Legislative Printing 5,404,547
Legislative Audit Council 1,265,112
Education Oversight Committee -
Judicial Department 45,402,544
Administrative Law Judges 1,965,243
Governor's Office - ECS 1,924,404
Governor's Office - SLED 37,198,819
Governor's Office - OEPP 8,120,288
Governor's Office - Mansion 305,541
Inspector General 618,092
Lieutenant Governor 9,676,661
Secretary of State 960,733
Comptroller General 2,186,285
State Treasurer 1,814,102
Retirement System Investment Commission -
Attorney General 4,911,793
Prosecution Coordination Commission 14,115,962
Commission on Indigent Defense 19,816,231
Adjutant General 5,774,641
Election Commission 4,571,671
B&C Bd. 38,238,883
B&C Bd. - Auditor 2,822,610
B&C Bd. - Employee Benefits 10,094,613
B&C Bd. - Capital Reserve Fund 117,155,905
Public Employee Benefits Authority (PEBA) -
Commission on Higher Education 104,167,619
Higher Education Tuition Grants 23,631,646
The Citadel 9,054,249
Clemson University (E&G) 66,390,604
University of Charleston 19,687,218
Coastal Carolina University 9,115,742
Francis Marion University 11,959,199
Lander University 6,232,632
South Carolina State University 12,457,557
University of South Carolina - Columbia 108,251,795
USC - Aiken 6,562,802
USC - Upstate 9,150,813
USC - Beaufort 2,648,495
USC - Lancaster 1,558,654
USC - Salkehatchie 1,323,602
USC - Sumter 2,558,470
USC - Union 609,132
Winthrop University 13,686,093
MUSC 58,947,162
Consortium of Community Teaching Hospitals 9,622,989
Technical & Comp. Education 121,209,884
Department of Education 2,337,529,664
Lottery Expenditure Account -
ETV -
Wil Lou Gray Opportunity School 5,611,587
Vocational Rehabilitation 13,815,459
School for the Deaf & the Blind 15,372,359
Archives & History 2,325,351
State Library 9,334,786
Arts Commission 2,965,885
Museum Commission 2,929,001
Health & Human Services Finance Commission 1,095,241,598
Department of Health & Environmental Control 98,746,114
Department of Mental Health 176,463,720
Department of Disabilities & Special Needs 187,653,209
Department of Alcohol & Other Drug Abuse Services 6,504,672
Department of Public Safety 72,364,934
Department of Motor Vehicles -
Department of Social Services 122,282,629
John de la Howe School 4,446,948
Commission for the Blind 2,764,363
Housing Finance and Development Authority -
Human Affairs Comission 1,519,339
Commission on Minority Affairs 724,664
Department of Corrections 372,654,261
Department of Probation, Parole & Pardon Services 21,930,179
Department of Juvenile Justice 102,792,146
Law Enforcement Training Council 768,792
Forestry Commission 13,924,071
Department of Agriculture 5,835,706
Clemson PSA 31,282,186
SC State PSA 3,020,244
Department of Natural Resources 18,948,411
Sea Grant Consortium 448,973
Department of Parks, Recreation & Tourism 37,005,004
Department of Commerce 21,464,055
Jobs-Economic Development Authority -
Patriots Point Development Authority -
SC Conservation Bank -
Rural Infrastructure Authority 1,375,000
Public Service Commission -
Office of Regulatory Staff -
Workers' Compensation Commission 1,859,011
State Accident Fund -
Patient's Compensation Fund -
Department of Insurance 3,716,525
Board of Financial Institutions -
Department of Consumer Affairs 1,169,223
Department of Labor, Licensing & Regulation 1,311,480
Department of Revenue 43,741,048
State Ethics Commission 300,746
Department of Employment & Workforce 365,389
Procurement Review Panel 133,983
Department of Transportation 50,057,270
Infrastructure Bank Board -
County Transportation Funds -
Division of Aeronautics 1,234,044
Debt Service 190,229,698
Aid to Subdivisions - Treasurer 199,854,146
Aid to Subdivisions - Dept. of Revenue 120,516,041

Total: 6,376,094,502

[Duck Tape]

Agency Federal Funds
Senate -
House -
Codification of Laws & Legislative Council -
Legislative Printing -
Legislative Audit Council -
Education Oversight Committee -
Judicial Department 3,835,393
Administrative Law Judges -
Governor's Office - ECS -
Governor's Office - SLED 36,268,454
Governor's Office - OEPP 76,450,411
Governor's Office - Mansion -
Inspector General -
Lieutenant Governor 24,448,597
Secretary of State -
Comptroller General -
State Treasurer -
Retirement System Investment Commission -
Attorney General 1,868,883
Prosecution Coordination Commission 355,583
Commission on Indigent Defense -
Adjutant General 45,193,912
Election Commission -
B&C Bd. 4,416,994
B&C Bd. - Auditor -
B&C Bd. - Employee Benefits -
B&C Bd. - Capital Reserve Fund -
Public Employee Benefits Authority (PEBA) -
Commission on Higher Education 8,076,081
Higher Education Tuition Grants -
The Citadel 28,736,095
Clemson University (E&G) 100,487,220
University of Charleston 19,500,000
Coastal Carolina University 21,000,000
Francis Marion University 11,600,995
Lander University 340,023
South Carolina State University 54,501,255
University of South Carolina - Columbia 172,603,631
USC - Aiken 7,596,607
USC - Upstate 14,750,838
USC - Beaufort 4,417,915
USC - Lancaster 4,090,048
USC - Salkehatchie 3,880,454
USC - Sumter 2,056,397
USC - Union 1,928,258
Winthrop University 51,197,500
MUSC 167,536,413
Consortium of Community Teaching Hospitals 844,700
Technical & Comp. Education 50,992,188
Department of Education 881,411,744
Lottery Expenditure Account -
ETV 500,000
Wil Lou Gray Opportunity School 240,000
Vocational Rehabilitation 106,045,183
School for the Deaf & the Blind 1,139,000
Archives & History 897,583
State Library 2,701,146
Arts Commission 1,335,641
Museum Commission -
Health & Human Services Finance Commission 4,474,669,661
Department of Health & Environmental Control 285,976,928
Department of Mental Health 15,865,121
Department of Disabilities & Special Needs 340,000
Department of Alcohol & Other Drug Abuse Services 27,979,711
Department of Public Safety 39,529,239
Department of Motor Vehicles 1,700,000
Department of Social Services 454,099,992
John de la Howe School 353,227
Commission for the Blind 8,433,255
Housing Finance and Development Authority 155,738,898
Human Affairs Comission 137,403
Commission on Minority Affairs -
Department of Corrections 3,167,000
Department of Probation, Parole & Pardon Services 50,000
Department of Juvenile Justice 2,332,366
Law Enforcement Training Council 500,000
Forestry Commission 4,763,560
Department of Agriculture 719,304
Clemson PSA 15,820,807
SC State PSA 4,173,741
Department of Natural Resources 23,988,302
Sea Grant Consortium 5,337,786
Department of Parks, Recreation & Tourism 2,505,110
Department of Commerce 19,377,015
Jobs-Economic Development Authority 18,000
Patriots Point Development Authority -
SC Conservation Bank -
Rural Infrastructure Authority -
Public Service Commission 150,000
Office of Regulatory Staff -
Workers' Compensation Commission -
State Accident Fund -
Patient's Compensation Fund -
Department of Insurance -
Board of Financial Institutions -
Department of Consumer Affairs -
Department of Labor, Licensing & Regulation 3,047,006
Department of Revenue -
State Ethics Commission -
Department of Employment & Workforce 150,229,936
Procurement Review Panel -
Department of Transportation -
Infrastructure Bank Board -
County Transportation Funds -
Division of Aeronautics 3,478,867
Debt Service -
Aid to Subdivisions - Treasurer -
Aid to Subdivisions - Dept. of Revenue -

Total: 7,617,727,377

[Duck Tape]

Agency Other Funds
Senate 300,000
House -
Codification of Laws & Legislative Council 300,000
Legislative Printing -
Legislative Audit Council 200,000
Education Oversight Committee 1,294,688
Judicial Department 20,498,000
Administrative Law Judges 1,470,240
Governor's Office - ECS -
Governor's Office - SLED 23,548,045
Governor's Office - OEPP 22,290,014
Governor's Office - Mansion 200,000
Inspector General 700,000
Lieutenant Governor 4,957,800
Secretary of State 1,470,088
Comptroller General 780,000
State Treasurer 6,156,466
Retirement System Investment Commission 13,021,374
Attorney General 15,426,411
Prosecution Coordination Commission 8,150,000
Commission on Indigent Defense 13,669,872
Adjutant General 6,646,961
Election Commission 1,640,700
B&C Bd. 142,172,939
B&C Bd. - Auditor 2,471,078
B&C Bd. - Employee Benefits -
B&C Bd. - Capital Reserve Fund -
Public Employee Benefits Authority (PEBA) 31,330,091
Commission on Higher Education 8,913,188
Higher Education Tuition Grants 4,638,296
The Citadel 97,996,676
Clemson University (E&G) 617,462,981
University of Charleston 185,983,872
Coastal Carolina University 152,711,043
Francis Marion University 33,750,352
Lander University 34,261,493
South Carolina State University 79,256,047
University of South Carolina - Columbia 715,229,343
USC - Aiken 41,457,362
USC - Upstate 68,376,142
USC - Beaufort 19,807,011
USC - Lancaster 13,784,453
USC - Salkehatchie 8,373,545
USC - Sumter 10,419,706
USC - Union 4,161,055
Winthrop University 86,293,320
MUSC 437,548,103
Consortium of Community Teaching Hospitals 2,808,927
Technical & Comp. Education 486,811,564
Department of Education 665,654,355
Lottery Expenditure Account 287,500,000
ETV 18,320,000
Wil Lou Gray Opportunity School 950,321
Vocational Rehabilitation 34,455,042
School for the Deaf & the Blind 8,320,455
Archives & History 1,294,158
State Library 217,000
Arts Commission 173,707
Museum Commission 2,560,500
Health & Human Services Finance Commission 912,856,205
Department of Health & Environmental Control 200,745,660
Department of Mental Health 216,356,451
Department of Disabilities & Special Needs 393,705,617
Department of Alcohol & Other Drug Abuse Services 4,691,449
Department of Public Safety 50,453,310
Department of Motor Vehicles 83,245,000
Department of Social Services 79,972,916
John de la Howe School 784,047
Commission for the Blind 293,000
Housing Finance and Development Authority 25,308,635
Human Affairs Comission 490,700
Commission on Minority Affairs 261,814
Department of Corrections 58,236,736
Department of Probation, Parole & Pardon Services 31,173,492
Department of Juvenile Justice 15,779,585
Law Enforcement Training Council 11,600,000
Forestry Commission 9,378,713
Department of Agriculture 10,093,526
Clemson PSA 23,395,568
SC State PSA -
Department of Natural Resources 41,542,933
Sea Grant Consortium 282,000
Department of Parks, Recreation & Tourism 39,606,863
Department of Commerce 41,763,500
Jobs-Economic Development Authority 405,150
Patriots Point Development Authority 10,124,762
SC Conservation Bank 9,860,233
Rural Infrastructure Authority 20,470,000
Public Service Commission 4,469,308
Office of Regulatory Staff 11,374,492
Workers' Compensation Commission 3,372,066
State Accident Fund 9,961,540
Patient's Compensation Fund 996,001
Department of Insurance 14,880,754
Board of Financial Institutions 4,076,215
Department of Consumer Affairs 2,059,666
Department of Labor, Licensing & Regulation 36,654,866
Department of Revenue 29,782,093
State Ethics Commission 517,508
Department of Employment & Workforce 16,017,884
Procurement Review Panel 2,534
Department of Transportation 1,531,979,884
Infrastructure Bank Board 50,429,800
County Transportation Funds 92,000,000
Division of Aeronautics 3,052,472
Debt Service -
Aid to Subdivisions - Treasurer -
Aid to Subdivisions - Dept. of Revenue -

Total: 8,552,689,732

[Duck Tape]

The budget is made up of state general funds, federal, and other.

Of course the roads are poorly paved. The house has tried to funds with existing tax dollars and the senate wants a tax increase. They believe if they starve transportation enough you will one day beg for an increase in gas tax.

[Bigtimber2]

As always the House blames the Senate and vice versa. Meanwhile the state's infrastructure continues to deteriorate while neighboring states surpass us. Well accept in the number of highways deaths per millions driven.

On the bright side catfish should be a much simpler and cheaper fix.