Originally Posted by
birdboy
but I will not be one of those over paranoid guys that grabs his ankle weight
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean someone isn't out to get you.
2) Not trying to kill elephants, but want something a little more lethal that a .22.
Never doubt the lethality of a .22. It's the round of choice for hit men everywhere and has been for over 70 years. More people (non-militarily) have been killed with a .22 than any other caliber ever made.
I think what you're trying to say is that you want a round that incapacitates as quickly as possible, knockdown.
<run-on sentence>The round that has proven itself to be the most manageable yet still delivering the most knockdown power and has proven itself for over 50 years in every area conceivable from the battlefield, law enforcement and self-defense and has accounted for more bad guys and good guys being piled up on the floor in a lifeless heap is the oh-so-slow-rolling .45. The bad guys can almost outrun the .45 projectile, but when it meets meat...they are going down!</run-on sentence>
I have been told by several people that have .380's that it couldn't hit a 50 gallon drum if it was inside with the lid closed. Thoughts?
The .380 isn't designed nor intended to have bench accuracy. It's a back-up gun, made for when things get hairy and close enough to feel the bad guy's breath on your neck. But even other self-defense handguns are not built for super tight groups. That's the job of competition handguns. You have to remember than the vast majority of self-defense situations involving a handgun happen at 7 yards are less. You will also be under extreme duress. You want to be able to consistently your rounds center-mass in a man sized target at 7 yards, and do this very quickly.
Just going to the range and shooting is fine to get familiar with your weapon, but it in no way trains you for the situation you may face or the condition you may be in when the shit goes down and it's life or death. There are many good ways to train and you can also come up with your own recipe for a training *routine (*bad word to use, don't let the training get to be routine, change it up some).
Here's one way to train that I've heard demonstrated that you'll need a buddy to do:
• Set up your man-target and mark off a line at 7 yards.
• Run suicides (wind sprints) until you are sucking wind, make the final push to your 7 yard mark and have your friend standing there.
• As soon as you stop on the mark have your buddy spin you around 2 times then literally push you down to the ground (knock you down).
• Jump up as fast as you can facing the target, draw and dump your mag in the target.
The idea is to get your body as close as possible to the stress it will be under when faced and responding to a deadly threat. Like I said you can come up with your own recipe for training.
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