Synthetic marijuana officially illegal

[jwilliams]

The government also used to have experiments on mind control and the long term effects on LSD on it's own citizens....doesn't make it right.

[BOGSTER]

The government also used to have experiments on mind control and the long term effects on LSD on it's own citizens....doesn't make it right.

This was sort of my point Art.

It's perfectly fine to alter the state of mind for the benefit of those who sit behind the desk, but its grounds for serious consequence if it is for your own personal pleasure.

[GBelly]

when our country wakes up and realizes that bud is less harmful than alcohol, can be taxed at a 20 billion dollar rate, IS NOT A GATEWAY DRUG, and the effort and money spent to stop it has been worthless and shall remain worthless....the light will shine
(thru bic lighter sales.)

the analogy i like to always use: who is more of a danger to society? the drunk leaving happy hour and heading home or the pot smoker ALREADY home who sits on the porch and takes a few rips then goes about his evening at home?

that synthetic stuff reminds me of yellow gold. same kinda crap we used to buy many moons ago that was basically a head rush for a short time.

[phfelkel]

shit made me puke, i'll stick with the real thing

[OakNuts]

What does this have to do with what I asked?


I find it more than obsurd that the military (and the federal government) think it is perfectly fine to dose American soldiers with the single most deadly substance ever concocted to create an altered state of mind, a substance so powerful it's side effects mirror symptoms of schizophrenia, but turn their nose up and question health regulations on a chemical that produces a marijuana-like effect.

Newsflash Bogger, marijuana can render schizophrenic symptoms too.

[BOGSTER]

Newsflash Bogger, marijuana can render schizophrenic symptoms too.

Please, do post up some data to back this.

[Turd Ferguson]

Time Magazine is reporting a link between smoking marijuana and developing the mental health disorder Schizophrenia. The studies they are quoting in their article suggest there is a very strong link between the two. They are reporting a 40% increase in risk of schizophrenia and other psychotic disorders for the person who tries the drug called marijuana, even one time.
The problem with the study is that the incidence of schizophrenia has stayed the same over the years. With the amount of pot smokers, 70% of the youth in this country have admitted to trying marijuana at least once, the numbers for people inflicted with schizophrenia should have also gone up, but it did not. Time Magazine reports it remains a flat line on the graph, with maybe even a small decline, but it certainly has not gone up since the numbers were first documented.
Studies can be useful, but maybe this study is telling us something else. Schizophrenia is a disorder that can be very frightening to the person who is suffering with it. It can blur reality with visual and audio hallucinations. This disorder can render a person out of touch with reality at times, which can also be a frightening experience. Schizophrenia comes with many different symptoms and people suffer those symptoms to many different degrees.
The average onset age for Schizophrenia is young adulthood between the ages of 18-25. This is also an age where the marijuana is an easy drug to score and many are smoking it. As the study said, 70% of kids try it at least once so apparently it is easily obtained.
Could it be that the kids starting with the symptoms of this disorder are using the pot to self medicate? It may be like the old question, what came first - the chicken or the egg? What came first here, you smoke marijuana and schizophrenia develops, or does the early symptoms of schizophrenia prompt the person to seek out ways to ease the symptoms?
At first onset the symptoms can be mild, but scary to a young adult and what better drug to relax the symptoms but marijuana, which is very available even though it is illegal in most states.
Countries all over the world have the same percentage of people who suffer with this Schizophrenia, and many of these countries have a much lower pot smoking population than others. Schizophrenia effects 1% of the world's population.
It varies a fraction of a percent higher in countries with aggressive mental health treatment. Meaning it is not that more people have this disorder, it is just that the diagnosing statistics may be higher from better mental health care. It is a disorder seen in 1% of the population across the board in every culture and every country, according to Mental Health.net.

[BOGSTER]

Yup.

[Tater]

Marijuana induced schizophrenia, huh? What a fuckin' riot that is

[Dook]

Marijuana induced schizophrenia, huh? What a fuckin' riot that is

That is what happens when bog gets to the end of the bag....


hehehehe.

[Mobetter]

Yup.

Potheads always get so defense about things like this. To hear folks who like to smoke tell it, breathing air is more harmful than smoking pot. That's as much reality as the "Reefer Madness" film.

The point in question was "schizophrenic symptoms" not "clinical schizophrenia".

Understand that a symptom is subjective and has no physical measurable quality.

Symptoms of schizophrenia can include hallucinations and paranoia.

Effects of tetrahydrocannibinol can include altered perception of auditory and visual senses and paranoia... which are symptoms of schizophrenia. Exhibiting the symptoms of a condition is different than having the illness, ie, experiencing chest pains doesn't always mean you're having a heart attack.

Marijuana is a drug. There are risks and side effects present as with all drugs. Just like nicotine, just like alcohol, just like aspirin.

[OakNuts]

http://bipolar.about.com/od/relatedd...schizo_pot.htm

Nope.

[MattB]

Newsflash Bogger, marijuana can render schizophrenic symptoms too.

Genetics can cause schizophrenia..HOLY SHIT, LET'S OUTLAW IT!!!!!

[OakNuts]

Genetics can cause schizophrenia..HOLY SHIT, LET'S OUTLAW IT!!!!!

Wood duck #'s are booming, HOLY SHIT, we need more predators!!!

[OakNuts]

Nice post Mobetter.

[dfasano]

Insert bullshit smiley here....

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[Tater]

Effects of tetrahydrocannibinol can include altered perception of auditory and visual senses and paranoia... which are symptoms of schizophrenia.

Well fuck it then, I guess I agree with ya. Many moons ago I ran across some pot grown in Pickens County that was un damn real. After smokin some of that shit I heard freight trains driving around in my head, but you know what? My head didn't hurt

Maybe it was the sugar cube driving the trains, I don't know, but I'm positive the pot kept my head from hurting

Marijuana is a drug.

That's good news for the medical marijuana crowd since your government has made it law that ONLY drugs can cure diseases

[BOGSTER]

Potheads always get so defense about things like this. To hear folks who like to smoke tell it, breathing air is more harmful than smoking pot. That's as much reality as the "Reefer Madness" film.

The point in question was "schizophrenic symptoms" not "clinical schizophrenia".

Understand that a symptom is subjective and has no physical measurable quality.

Symptoms of schizophrenia can include hallucinations and paranoia.

Effects of tetrahydrocannibinol can include altered perception of auditory and visual senses and paranoia... which are symptoms of schizophrenia. Exhibiting the symptoms of a condition is different than having the illness, ie, experiencing chest pains doesn't always mean you're having a heart attack.

Marijuana is a drug. There are risks and side effects present as with all drugs. Just like nicotine, just like alcohol, just like aspirin.

I grazed Oak's post and guess I missed his use of "symptoms."

I'm not a pot head of any sort.
I'm simply an advocate for adults to be able to make their own choices about their bodies.

As I've said here a thousand times, Folks don't need others to tell them what is ok for them to use or not use.
We are adults. Some people like a bourbon on the rocks, some like to roll a joint, others like to tamper with alternate realities with the aid of hallucigenic drugs. All of these should be the concern of one person. The user.

I believe all substances should be legal to use, especially natural ones.
I also believe the price for operating vehicles while under the influence of any drug, alcohol or otherwise, should be severe.

[Mobetter]

a substance so powerful it's side effects mirror symptoms of schizophrenia

I grazed Oak's post and guess I missed his use of "symptoms."