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    Walkers only run in fenced clubs or pens.

    Hunting in the open requires using only Dachshunds, Chihuahuas, or pure bred Basset hounds.


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    I took Nutz on a 3 hour tour today. A 3 hour tour. (yeah I loved Gilligans Island) The weather didn't get rough. All the shit we find to bitch about these days is crazy. We were just enjoying the boss oyster catcher standing on the bank. The shark swimming down Fishing Creek, the shrimp popping. We all need to be better...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catdaddy View Post
    Walkers only run in fenced clubs or pens.

    Hunting in the open requires using only Dachshunds, Chihuahuas, or pure bred Basset hounds.


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    Gedney Howe fought trespassing dog hunters and won several years ago. Need to research what he did.

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    South Carolina Department of Natural Resources (SCDNR) staff have been asked by the SCDNR Board to gather public input regarding hunting deer with dogs, including perspectives on areas of conflict and potential solutions.

    At this time, there is no pending legislation, and SCDNR is not proposing or recommending any changes to current laws or regulations related to hunting deer with dogs.

    To ensure all perspectives have an opportunity to be heard, SCDNR is hosting a series of public meetings, focus groups, and a statewide public survey. The information collected will help the agency better understand public perspectives and provide factual, comprehensive information to the SCDNR Board and, if requested, the South Carolina General Assembly.

    These engagement opportunities are intended solely to gather public input. SCDNR's role is to listen, document the information received, and ensure that a broad range of viewpoints is represented. Any changes to state law must be made by the South Carolina General Assembly.

    The remaining public engagement forums are scheduled for:

    Monday, July 27

    6:30 - 8:00 PM

    Orangeburg-Calhoun Technical College Auditorium
    3250 St. Matthews Road
    Orangeburg, SC 29118

    Monday, August 10

    6:30 - 8:00 PM

    Hampton Street Auditorium
    494 Hampton Street
    Walterboro, SC 29488

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    [QUOTE=PBiz;3254304]-

    - Acreage Limit on still hunting with a firearm. (20 Acres. Anything else is simply mooching off of a larger neighbor). This gripes me way worse than some piece of trash running dogs through me.. It’s also dangerous, as most of the stands on small parcels are on the property line..


    I don’t think that comparison holds up.

    The idea that someone shouldn’t be allowed to still hunt a 20-acre tract because they’re “mooching off a larger neighbor” doesn’t make much sense. Deer are a public wildlife resource. They aren’t owned by the landowner where they happen to be standing at any given moment, and they certainly aren’t owned by the neighbor with the biggest tract.

    If a landowner spends the time and money to improve a small property by creating quality bedding cover, food, or habitat that attracts deer, why shouldn’t they be able to hunt it? That’s exactly what good habitat management is supposed to encourage.

    Trying to equate acreage limits for dog hunting with acreage limits for still hunting is comparing two completely different situations. A person sitting on a stand over a 20-acre tract is hunting only the property they own or have permission to hunt. Whether they’re using a bow or a firearm doesn’t change the fact that they’re legally hunting where they have every right to be.

    This is coming from someone who has large acreage, that spend lots of money improving habitat. There are several small properties around me that I know reap the benefits of my labor. It doesn’t bother me one bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PBiz View Post
    Do deer dogs ruin a hunt more than coyotes, pigs, or hunting an ass backwards wind or nah??

    I completely understand that folks don’t want dogs on their property, which I agree with.. I never want other peoples dogs on me, mainly because they don’t belong there.

    But lord, they aren’t eating the women and children..

    Again, I would much rather a dog club pressure deer on a neighboring property, occasionally getting on me, versus someone hunting 10 acres, 8 days a week, killing 8-10 bucks a year.

    I would much rather have a dog club beside me, than a farmer paying people to help him shoot his depredation tags(and more) from March to August..

    Trespassing dogs ain’t ever cool, but yall don’t clutch your pearls too tight, it ain’t healthy.
    That person who owns 10 acres has just as much a right to hunt as you do. He’s not hurting your hunt by hunting his property. Not the same with a trespassing dog. You are just pissed he is killing deer you perceive as yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PBiz View Post
    If something doesn’t change, Dog Hunting will be dead..
    One can only hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by banded_mallard View Post
    You are just pissed he is killing deer you perceive as yours.
    Maybe so, but normally in this situation, the 10 acre hunter kills 4-10 deer.......which is way more than the carrying capacity of his 10 acres.

    Hes got a honeyhole until the other landowner puts up a 7 ft fence around 75% of his property. Then he cries about fairness.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Catdaddy View Post
    Maybe so, but normally in this situation, the 10 acre hunter kills 4-10 deer.......which is way more than the carrying capacity of his 10 acres.

    Hes got a honeyhole until the other landowner puts up a 7 ft fence around 75% of his property. Then he cries about fairness.



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    Quote Originally Posted by aquaman View Post
    Gedney Howe fought trespassing dog hunters and won several years ago. Need to research what he did.
    He built a fence.. A tall one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by banded_mallard View Post
    One can only hope.
    You’re a miserable little fella eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PBiz View Post
    You’re a miserable little fella eh?
    Not really I’m a happy person. Just tired of the bitching. I won’t argue that many are ruining it for the few. But at this point it maybe what has to be done to fix the problem.
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    [QUOTE=banded_mallard;3255684]
    Quote Originally Posted by PBiz View Post
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    - Acreage Limit on still hunting with a firearm. (20 Acres. Anything else is simply mooching off of a larger neighbor). This gripes me way worse than some piece of trash running dogs through me.. It’s also dangerous, as most of the stands on small parcels are on the property line..


    I don’t think that comparison holds up.

    The idea that someone shouldn’t be allowed to still hunt a 20-acre tract because they’re “mooching off a larger neighbor” doesn’t make much sense. Deer are a public wildlife resource. They aren’t owned by the landowner where they happen to be standing at any given moment, and they certainly aren’t owned by the neighbor with the biggest tract.

    If a landowner spends the time and money to improve a small property by creating quality bedding cover, food, or habitat that attracts deer, why shouldn’t they be able to hunt it? That’s exactly what good habitat management is supposed to encourage.

    Trying to equate acreage limits for dog hunting with acreage limits for still hunting is comparing two completely different situations. A person sitting on a stand over a 20-acre tract is hunting only the property they own or have permission to hunt. Whether they’re using a bow or a firearm doesn’t change the fact that they’re legally hunting where they have every right to be.

    This is coming from someone who has large acreage, that spend lots of money improving habitat. There are several small properties around me that I know reap the benefits of my labor. It doesn’t bother me one bit.
    What about recovering deer? Unless you kill a deer DRT, there is a very high likelihood that the deer will die on another person's property. Do you have the right to trespass to recover your animal? What if it is 9am on a Saturday during the rut? That wounded buck would cause just as much disruption as a pack of dogs running through a property. I don't have a dog in the fight, but it is just a perspective about hunting small acreage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JABIII View Post
    I took Nutz on a 3 hour tour today. A 3 hour tour. (yeah I loved Gilligans Island) The weather didn't get rough. All the shit we find to bitch about these days is crazy. We were just enjoying the boss oyster catcher standing on the bank. The shark swimming down Fishing Creek, the shrimp popping. We all need to be better...
    Enjoyed the hell out of it.
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    Jealous

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    [QUOTE=Remy;3255695]
    Quote Originally Posted by banded_mallard View Post

    What about recovering deer? Unless you kill a deer DRT, there is a very high likelihood that the deer will die on another person's property. Do you have the right to trespass to recover your animal? What if it is 9am on a Saturday during the rut? That wounded buck would cause just as much disruption as a pack of dogs running through a property. I don't have a dog in the fight, but it is just a perspective about hunting small acreage.
    As someone who hunts small tracts of land you need to make DRT shots (I shoot all of my deer in the neck) if you don’t have permission from your neighbors. Not everyone has a bad relationship with their neighboring properties because even those with 500+ acres will have a wounded deer cross property lines.

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    Gedney did way more than put up a fence. Check it out. His problem was hounds ending up inside his fence which had been there a long time.

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