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    WASHINGTON —
    Annual COVID-19 shots for healthy younger adults and children will no longer be routinely approved under a major new policy shift unveiled Tuesday by the Trump administration.

    Top officials for the Food and Drug Administration laid out new requirements for yearly updates to COVID shots, saying they'd continue to use a streamlined approach that would make vaccines available to adults 65 and older as well as children and younger adults with at least one health problem that puts them at higher risk.

    But the FDA framework urges companies to conduct large, lengthy studies before tweaked vaccines can be approved for healthier people. In a framework published Tuesday in the New England Journal of Medicine, agency officials said the approach still could keep annual vaccinations available for between 100 million and 200 million adults.

    The upcoming changes raise questions about people who may still want a fall COVID-19 shot but don't clearly fall into one of the categories.

    “Is the pharmacist going to determine if you're in a high-risk group?” asked Dr. Paul Offit, a vaccine expert at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia. “The only thing that can come of this will make vaccines less insurable and less available.”

    The framework, published in the New England Journal of Medicine, is the culmination of a series of recent steps scrutinizing the use of COVID shots and raising major questions about the broader availability of vaccines under President Donald Trump.

    For years, federal health officials have told most Americans to expect annual updates to COVID-19 vaccines, similar to the annual flu shot. Just like with flu vaccines, until now the FDA has approved updated COVID shots when manufacturers provide evidence that they spark just as much immune protection as the previous year's version.

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    But FDA's new guidance appears to be the end of that approach under Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, who has filled the FDA and other health agencies with outspoken critics of the government’s handling of COVID shots, particularly their recommendation for young, healthy adults and children.

    Tuesday’s update, written by FDA Commissioner Marty Makary and FDA vaccine chief Vinay Prasad, criticized the U.S.’s “one-size-fits-all” approach and states that the U.S. has been “the most aggressive” in recommending COVID boosters, when compared with European countries.

    “We simply don’t know whether a healthy 52-year-old woman with a normal BMI who has had Covid-19 three times and has received six previous doses of a Covid-19 vaccine will benefit from the seventh dose,” they wrote.

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    Outside experts say there are legitimate questions about how much everyone still benefits from yearly COVID vaccination or whether they should be recommended for people at increased risk. An influential panel of advisers to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is set to debate that question next month.

    The FDA framework announced Tuesday appears to usurp that advisory panel's job, Offit said. He added that CDC studies have made clear that booster doses do offer protection against mild to moderate illness for four to six months after the shot even in healthy people.

    https://www.wyff4.com/article/fda-co...shift/64826702

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    Quote Originally Posted by JABIII View Post

    The upcoming changes raise questions about people who may still want a fall COVID-19 shot but don't clearly fall into one of the categories.
    Imagine being this stupid bastage...

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    It's amazing how easy it is to get vaccinated as a human. You can get it done at a pharmacy with no physical.

    Practice law in the state of SC states I CANNOT vaccinate a dog without first doing a physical exam and determining that pet is "healthy". The exception of course is rabies vaccine which is required to be given by law and requires no exam but can only be given by a veterinarian. I vaccinate a dog without an exam and it has a reaction, I'm held liable. But a person? Just trot on down the the Ekerds and stick out your arm and say "Ow".

    Crazy.

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    Member here is the heir to Eckerds. My calculator doesn't go that high.

    I hear Chuck Wright is back to running things in your AO...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JABIII View Post
    Member here is the heir to Eckerds. My calculator doesn't go that high.

    I hear Chuck Wright is back to running things in your AO...
    I don't drive on interstates in Spartanburg county and I look like a half gallon of skim milk I'm so white. So I'm marked safe from being "Chuck Wrighted" and/or "Rolling Thundered."

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    As many old time outlaws that I know from Spartanburg County, it is truly amazing that he has lived this long pulling that bullshit. Never met Sheriff Wright, but he must be some kind of badass...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JABIII View Post
    Member here is the heir to Eckerds. My calculator doesn't go that high.

    I hear Chuck Wright is back to running things in your AO...
    Eckerd's heir you say? It ain't me...
    F**K Cancer

    Just Damn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn View Post
    It's amazing how easy it is to get vaccinated as a human. You can get it done at a pharmacy with no physical.

    Practice law in the state of SC states I CANNOT vaccinate a dog without first doing a physical exam and determining that pet is "healthy". The exception of course is rabies vaccine which is required to be given by law and requires no exam but can only be given by a veterinarian. I vaccinate a dog without an exam and it has a reaction, I'm held liable. But a person? Just trot on down the the Ekerds and stick out your arm and say "Ow".

    Crazy.
    Great point. Insane to think about that is where we are as a society, clearly pushed by the drug companies, which are obviously more powerful than the medical lobby. Serious question, Glenn: Would the Vet lobby have pursued this requirement to protect veterinarians from being sideswiped on office visits?

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    Yup. Never spent a nickel of it either. Raised right...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LowcountryBuck View Post
    Great point. Insane to think about that is where we are as a society, clearly pushed by the drug companies, which are obviously more powerful than the medical lobby. Serious question, Glenn: Would the Vet lobby have pursued this requirement to protect veterinarians from being sideswiped on office visits?
    Not at all. You can vaccinate your dogs all day long with no physical requirement. They are available online and in most feed/seed stores. The exception being rabies vaccine which carries no requirement for a physical but can only be given by a licensed DVM. Now the catch is, are those home given vaccines effective? Did jethro the unskilled worker leave them on the counter to get hot? Were they stored correctly? Are they honored and accepted at boarding, grooming and training facilities? But those businesses make those rules, not us.

    Oh, and JABIII, this here says Chuck "The Roll" Thunder is still on leave...

    https://www.wyff4.com/article/chuck-...-ends/64826063

    The sheriff's office's new public information officer told WYFF News 4 there has been no change and Wright is still on leave.

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    Nevermind the President or Chuck. Nancy Mace says that she is getting nekkid on the House floor...


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    wtf wtf wtf?
    she's doing what?

    sounds like she has a personal vendetta against one dude and is using her position to make sure he gets put in jail? wtf wtf wtf
    Ugh. Stupid people piss me off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JABIII View Post
    Nevermind the President or Chuck. Nancy Mace says that she is getting nekkid on the House floor...

    No objection from me if she does. Magnificent Mogambos.
    F**K Cancer

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2thDoc View Post
    wtf wtf wtf?
    she's doing what?

    sounds like she has a personal vendetta against one dude and is using her position to make sure he gets put in jail? wtf wtf wtf
    He acted alone. Don’t see the issue
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    after reading an article, it appears she is saying he filmed her with a hidden camera in a rental house without her consent. he said he had nothing to do with it. while I dont know who is right and who is wrong, it appears he would need help setting this up. i wont comment until I know more but I see an issue....
    Ugh. Stupid people piss me off.

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