Think corn is a good thing?

[pee dee]

Is that a corn pile or some kinda photo shoot fall session with the hay?

[AnythingFeathers]

You brought corn in Kansas into a conversation about corn in SC to try to make a point about whether or not corn is dangerous. That is nowhere near an appropriate comparison. That is the definition of rationalization.
Your assertion that I said corn “dangerous” are your words, not mine. Never said corn was inherently dangerous, merely questioned whether if the dangers that do exist are worth the result. I don’t believe that it is (inherently dangerous), just the methods in which it is used COULD be, and that was not my feeder in OP. It is on a club I’m involved with, but not my feeder, not my choice.
I made no assumptions or even mention of your feeding practices. I am also not feeding AT ALL, at least for now. Have not decide whether I will or not. I to prefer food plots and natural enhancement. Spend lots of time on both. IMG_6304.jpg

The point (or logic, if you want to look at it that way) of this thread was to show that an objective, constructive, informative conversation about feeding is damn near impossible on a public forum such as this. That any hint of saying feeding COULD BE, not IS, detrimental, would be met with vehement- ridicule, name calling, incorrect assumptions of position, and assertion, not suggestions, of what went wrong in this particular situation. I didn’t need to provide validity to back that up, y’all did it for me.

[Buckin Bronco]

You’re welcome? Is that what you’re looking for?

[willk]

Did the Professor get a new handle. We just got schooled y'all. Not only about the dangers of corn, but we lab rats proved his theory about the course of discussion on internet forums. Screw the book, I want to read the dissertation.

[Whackumstackum]

I’m just surprised this dipshit is still rambling about whatever.

[Southernduck]

Been looking around for the grain bins and feed mill at TSC but can’t seem to find them.

The fact that this moondick has so much faith in TSC says a lot. He also doesn’t realize that there is 400,000+ acres of corn grown in South Carolina so while not Kansas acres it is more than a backyard food plot like what he planted. Deer eat corn in all stages seed, plant, and grain. I prefer to shoot them at the plant stage.

[AnythingFeathers]

Was never about quality of corn of TSC corn. TSC was just used as example. Fully understand the scale of corn farming in this state and the economic impact of it. And have the highest level of respect for the farmers who grow it. One the most noble professions. But trying to compare Kansas’ over 5 million acres of corn, 43 million acres of farms (85% of total land mass) to SC’s 400,000 acres out of a little less than 5,000,000 of farmland (less than 25% of total land mass) and how that relates to deer(or anything else).. absurd.
That “backyard” food plot will produce 8-10 tons per acre of forage this year, much more than the just under 4 ton average for corn. And 4-5 times more nutritional. I’ll take my half million pounds of quality forage over 220,000 lbs of corn grown on same ground any day.
Even a moondick understands that!!

As why I’m still rambling-
To show the level of willful ingnorance and bullish tendencies of the keyboard cowboys in these forums.
I told you exactly why this thread exists in earlier posts. Yet, here you are, still reading, still name calling, ……….still participating!!
Dipshit? OK

[raybird]

this is SCDicks ya know

[Southernduck]

Was never about quality of corn of TSC corn. TSC was just used as example. Fully understand the scale of corn farming in this state and the economic impact of it. And have the highest level of respect for the farmers who grow it. One the most noble professions. But trying to compare Kansas’ over 5 million acres of corn, 43 million acres of farms (85% of total land mass) to SC’s 400,000 acres out of a little less than 5,000,000 of farmland (less than 25% of total land mass) and how that relates to deer(or anything else).. absurd.
That “backyard” food plot will produce 8-10 tons per acre of forage this year, much more than the just under 4 ton average for corn. And 4-5 times more nutritional. I’ll take my half million pounds of quality forage over 220,000 lbs of corn grown on same ground any day.
Even a moondick understands that!!

As why I’m still rambling-
To show the level of willful ingnorance and bullish tendencies of the keyboard cowboys in these forums.
I told you exactly why this thread exists in earlier posts. Yet, here you are, still reading, still name calling, ……….still participating!!
Dipshit? OK

I love deer poets they are so knowledgeable.

From a forage standpoint dry land corn in this state averages 16+ tons per acre ( there is a reason corn is used for silage, it makes tons). Real curious what you are planting to achieve 8-10 tons per acre. I very intensively manage grazing for my cattle and I know that not much produces 8-10t/a. So unless your name is Jim Gerrish, Allen Williams or Gabe Brown I think you are full of shit.

By the way I am all for forage but I am really for the truth.

[raybird]

I love deer poets they are so knowledgeable.

From a forage standpoint dry land corn in this state averages 16+ tons per acre ( there is a reason corn is used for silage, it makes tons). Real curious what you are planting to achieve 8-10 tons per acre. I very intensively manage grazing for my cattle and I know that not much produces 8-10t/a. So unless your name is Jim Gerrish, Allen Williams or Gabe Brown I think you are full of shit.

By the way I am all for forage but I am really for the truth.

your not good at analogies

[FLS]

Anything Feathers has gored some of y’all’s prize bull…

[Duckman#1]

I think it is a great thing. I don't let mine ROT in a feeder. Works great...

Kinda my thoughts.

[Model12]

Fixin to take my rifle & jug of ice tea and get in my tower and watch the sun go down on my corn pile.......I'll leave this to ya to argue on.

[banded_mallard]

I love deer poets they are so knowledgeable.

From a forage standpoint dry land corn in this state averages 16+ tons per acre ( there is a reason corn is used for silage, it makes tons). Real curious what you are planting to achieve 8-10 tons per acre. I very intensively manage grazing for my cattle and I know that not much produces 8-10t/a. So unless your name is Jim Gerrish, Allen Williams or Gabe Brown I think you are full of shit.

By the way I am all for forage but I am really for the truth.

Sunn hemp is about the only thing I can come up with. Lab lab would be close you can get 9 tons out of it. But I also call bullshit on his 10 tons per acre. Corn is king. Give me corn and that’s why I use it every year and I’m not stopping until big gov makes me. Then I will just plant it. Nothing attracts animals like corn, period.

[Southernduck]

Sunn hemp is about the only thing I can come up with. Lab lab would be close you can get 9 tons out of it. But I also call bullshit on his 10 tons per acre. Corn is king. Give me corn and that’s why I use it every year and I’m not stopping until big gov makes me. Then I will just plant it. Nothing attracts animals like corn, period.

I just turned some cows in 8-9ft tall Sun hemp, with cow peas, buckwheat and pearl millet in it. Looks great but it won’t produce 9tons of forage unless you count the inedible woody stem (it’s edible under 4ft tall*).

I am still not feeding corn to deer but not for the reasons Nostradamus is stating.

[banded_mallard]

I just turned some cows in 8-9ft tall Sun hemp, with cow peas, buckwheat and pearl millet in it. Looks great but it won’t produce 9tons of forage unless you count the inedible woody stem (it’s edible under 4ft tall*).

I am still not feeding corn to deer but not for the reasons Nostradamus is stating.

I’ll buy that. I have never grown it. I was going by advertised. It’s the only thing that I could find that advertises anywhere near his claim.

[AnythingFeathers]

SouthernDuck is talking about cows, and corn silage. I’m talking deer, and corn grain. 2 separate things entirely. My

8-10 tons would be a 2 season, full year of planting 4-5 fall/winter 4-5 spring/summer. Couple of different turnips/brassicas will be the big producers Sept-Jan, bulbs into Feb. Capable of 5-6 tons alone. I’ll do good to get 3-3.5 Will get another 1-1.25 off wheat, oats and cereal rye into early spring. And, 1/4-1/2 out of outers stuff in there.
Forage beans in spring/summer can yield 6-8 tons. Once again, expect 3.5-4.5, and another 1 of other stuff in there.
Those are dry matter numbers. Your silage is not. That is a wet number. Your dry number is probably closer to 6.
The stuff we put in food plots, I would think, is not financially feasible for a cattle operation. Probably double, or more per year than pasture grass. And grass is probably a lot more manageable. Definitely less labor.

As far as a poet:
Corn silage vs deer plots
The argument is lame
When you figure out I could be right
Maybe you’ll remember my name.

Maybe you will, maybe you won’t
Go back to your cows and grass
You and all the others on here
Can kiss my lily white ass!

[b-stick]

Anyone figure out why that corn turned black?

No way yall feed the same deer you eat black corn.

Does Kansas corn turn black? When Kansas corn gets wet, does it turn black? If the feeder got that hot, wouldn’t you have came back to black popcorn?

A lot of questions that need answers.

[Southernduck]

SouthernDuck is talking about cows, and corn silage. I’m talking deer, and corn grain. 2 separate things entirely. My

8-10 tons would be a 2 season, full year of planting 4-5 fall/winter 4-5 spring/summer. Couple of different turnips/brassicas will be the big producers Sept-Jan, bulbs into Feb. Capable of 5-6 tons alone. I’ll do good to get 3-3.5 Will get another 1-1.25 off wheat, oats and cereal rye into early spring. And, 1/4-1/2 out of outers stuff in there.
Forage beans in spring/summer can yield 6-8 tons. Once again, expect 3.5-4.5, and another 1 of other stuff in there.
Those are dry matter numbers. Your silage is not. That is a wet number. Your dry number is probably closer to 6.
The stuff we put in food plots, I would think, is not financially feasible for a cattle operation. Probably double, or more per year than pasture grass. And grass is probably a lot more manageable. Definitely less labor.

As far as a poet:
Corn silage vs deer plots
The argument is lame
When you figure out I could be right
Maybe you’ll remember my name.

Maybe you will, maybe you won’t
Go back to your cows and grass
You and all the others on here
Can kiss my lily white ass!

They are both ruminants.

I just stated that corn silage is where you get the tons. 200bu/a corn is 5.6t/a in grain but if you take it as silage it is 3-4x.

Dude you put some wet corn in your feeder in August and it rotted but you weren’t paying attention. Move on.