Dr. Phil Lavretsky Podcast

[MDman]

A lot of his genetic research has been posted here, but this podcast is by far the most eye opening. He goes into some of his most recent findings and research that is soon to be published.

If we can get lawmakers and biologists behind this- we might finally stop the Tamie plague.

All the years and all the conversations about “why mallards stopped coming to SC” was answered in this podcast, at least for me.

This is a must listen if you care about waterfowl.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas...=1000660888482

[billbuster84]

Just listened to it the other day. Very informative, and a real eye opener


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[cajunwannabe]

Ducks Unlimited and Delta Waterfowl, among other wildlife groups, need to lobby Washington and the USFWS to put a stop to mallard release programs.

Good ol boy SC politicians are deeply entrenched in shooting released mallards, the Feds need to ban it.

[trkykilr]

Another sale of the long term good for instant gratification

[Calibogue]

Ducks Unlimited and Delta Waterfowl, among other wildlife groups, need to lobby Washington and the USFWS to put a stop to mallard release programs.

Good ol boy SC politicians are deeply entrenched in shooting released mallards, the Feds need to ban it.

Delta has no intention of stopping MRP across the country as clearly demonstrated by Frank Rowher in this letter to Wielicki.
Go straight to the last two paragraphs.
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[cajunwannabe]

Frank must be jealous because it's not his science.

Wielicki wrote that prior to going to the Waterfowl Advisory Committee mtg to hear Dr. Levretsky with a couple cronies. He must have been looking for redemption for his sins.

A key advisory member posed the question about released mallards potentially being live decoys. Dr. Levretsky's answer was a resounding "yes" and it was a kick in the nuts to each and every tamie operation in attendance, no matter how they attempt to justify it. I'm glad I recorded it on my phone.

[2thDoc]

so, we get to pick and choose which scientist to believe?

if its in podcast form, does that make it more scientifically sound?

Does Delta make money off of SCWA and hence the comments?

I am just trying to follow along....

[pee dee]

I believe part of
It is we want a solution and this sounds like it may be the culprit. Is that he reason Arkansas sucks now? Not according to him. I believe it has more to do with we beat on this ducks 60 days a year and I def do not believe their duck counts.

[cajunwannabe]

so, we get to pick and choose which scientist to believe?

if its in podcast form, does that make it more scientifically sound?

Does Delta make money off of SCWA and hence the comments?

I am just trying to follow along....

Yes of course, many believed Fauci.....

[swampknob]

Any of this been looked into with quail and similar reduced reproduction/fitness? Would assume number of released quail exponentially outnumbers ducks.

[Glenn]

Ducks Unlimited and Delta Waterfowl, among other wildlife groups, need to lobby Washington and the USFWS to put a stop to mallard release programs.

Good ol boy SC politicians are deeply entrenched in shooting released mallards, the Feds need to ban it.

You forget all those good ol boys are also D/U and Delta donors. Don't look to fundraising groups to alienate their donors for the sake of a resource.

[jwilliams]

You forget all those good ol boys are also D/U and Delta donors. Don't look to fundraising groups to alienate their donors for the sake of a resource.

yep.

[cajunwannabe]

You forget all those good ol boys are also D/U and Delta donors. Don't look to fundraising groups to alienate their donors for the sake of a resource.

I've seen the banners and flags they fly at SCWA, it's pathetic that DU, Delta, SCDNR don't take a stand against released mallards.

I was alienated from DU and Delta after I reached out to both organizations regarding their stance on mallard release and seeing the banners as an observer of a youth duck "hunt" at SCWA. A friend at DNR actually said "you're the last person I expected to see here."

Fast forward 15 years and Ducks Unlimited is one source of funding for Dr. Levretsky's research so regardless of what Delta and Dr. Frank Rowher think DU is actually doing the scientific genetic studies.

[Quackhead22]

Any of this been looked into with quail and similar reduced reproduction/fitness? Would assume number of released quail exponentially outnumbers ducks.

Yes, released quail can and are breeding with wild birds. If a wild male breeds a released hen the hen will typically not incubate the nest and the eggs don’t survive, if they do survive the hen doesn’t have the maternal instinct. So the chicks don’t survive. If you are managing for wild birds, releasing birds on your property is causing far more harm than good. Quail are not a migratory species so release birds aren’t having an effect on an entire species just the birds in the general vicinity.


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[tman]

I believe part of
It is we want a solution and this sounds like it may be the culprit. Is that he reason Arkansas sucks now? Not according to him. I believe it has more to do with we beat on this ducks 60 days a year and I def do not believe their duck counts.

Well the eastern flyway has the shortest season. The other flyways have longer seasons. So why do they (the other flyways) have more birds and longer season length?

[Catdaddy]

Well the eastern flyway has the shortest season. The other flyways have longer seasons. So why do they (the other flyways) have more birds and longer season length?

Could it be that the others have better nesting habitat to the north and northwest of them?

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[cajunwannabe]

Well the eastern flyway has the shortest season. The other flyways have longer seasons. So why do they (the other flyways) have more birds and longer season length?

Better habitat in the Pacific Northwest? Higher nest success? Less hunter numbers and less pressure? No surface drive mud boats?

How does hunting the West coast compare to the East coast in terms of quality, quantity hunts? Many mud boats? More paddle in only areas? How many folks are "scouting" 7-14 days before season opener riding around in mud boats jumping ducks?

[pee dee]

I believe the duck counts are so wrong partly bc lobbyist pay to keep the season long for their financial interests of those in the industry. We hunt them too late. No reason to be hunting paired ducks. Also just anecdotal…if we don’t have October water we don’t get Nov and Dec ducks. Pray for a tropical system. I have a hard time believing people that say ducks harvest by hunter’s does not matter.

[WhitewaterDuck]

so, we get to pick and choose which scientist to believe?

if its in podcast form, does that make it more scientifically sound?

Does Delta make money off of SCWA and hence the comments?

I am just trying to follow along....

I know you aren’t into things that stretch your attention span, but the science behind this guy’s work is solid and takes a very different approach at attempting to understand what’s going on with ducks/mallards here and across the planet. I listened to him on the MeatEater podcast while making the 19 hour drive from SD to NC yesterday; it is eye opening.

There is a little bit of truth in most people’s observations and theories about what’s going on with mallard migration, but this guy’s genetic based research strongly points to the root reasons for the well observed decline in Atlantic and Mississippi flyway migration reduction and overall decline in mallard numbers.

It’s worth a listen, and you won’t view it as wasted time.

[banded_mallard]

Yes, released quail can and are breeding with wild birds. If a wild male breeds a released hen the hen will typically not incubate the nest and the eggs don’t survive, if they do survive the hen doesn’t have the maternal instinct. So the chicks don’t survive. If you are managing for wild birds, releasing birds on your property is causing far more harm than good. Quail are not a migratory species so release birds aren’t having an effect on an entire species just the birds in the general vicinity.


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I don’t know about all that. I see the opposite on our property. I follow science as well but it’s also hard for me to argue what I see with my own eyes.