Red Snapper Season

[Palmetto Duck]

S wake are you pulling a rope a dope drunk or just not thinking? It’s not about putting them in the box. It’s about the fact there is a thriving fishery that NOAA has arbitrarily basically shut down with no apparent reasoning nor feedback. Surely you get that.

[Saltydog235]

S wake are you pulling a rope a dope drunk or just not thinking? It’s not about putting them in the box. It’s about the fact there is a thriving fishery that NOAA has arbitrarily basically shut down with no apparent reasoning nor feedback. Surely you get that.

Well, the same organization shut down our Golden Tile on 2/29/2024 because south Florida caught the 2,632 fish quota for the entire region. Let that sink in, a non-pelagic, deep water fish was closed for 1/2 the east coast based on some arbitrary number.

[SouthernWake]

S wake are you pulling a rope a dope drunk or just not thinking? It’s not about putting them in the box. It’s about the fact there is a thriving fishery that NOAA has arbitrarily basically shut down with no apparent reasoning nor feedback. Surely you get that.

Mainly pulling a rope. I’m skewed in what type of fishing appeals to me and bottom fishing isn’t really on my radar.

NOAA is going off their data (right or wrong), how many participate in reporting such as that to SAFMC? Anglers ability to catch fish is not a direct correlation on fishery health.

[Southernduck]

I hope NOAA gets Chevroned

[Palmetto Bug]

The way the law is worded makes NOAA default to closing fishing if they don't have good, indisputable population numbers.

SouthernWake, Imagine if federal authorities decided to stop even catch and release fishing for redfish and trout because their numbers MIGHT be down, even though you have witnessed a thriving population. Limiting or stopping intentional catching of redfish is already being discussed, at least at the state level, due to suspected release mortality.

[Saltydog235]

S wake are you pulling a rope a dope drunk or just not thinking? It’s not about putting them in the box. It’s about the fact there is a thriving fishery that NOAA has arbitrarily basically shut down with no apparent reasoning nor feedback. Surely you get that.

Well, the same organization shut down our Golden Tile on 2/29/2024 because south Florida caught the 2,632 fish quota for the entire region. Let that sink in, a non-pelagic, deep water fish was closed for 1/2 the east coast based on some arbitrary number.

[12341234]

Let noaa know I saw commercial bandit boats sitting in mpa’s multiple days last week, and saw a commercial tile boat setting gear. It’s a joke. Maybe they should follow the formula we used for ducks deer turkeys and other over hunted animals. Get rid of commercial fishing and let the people enjoy the public resource.

And they are about to re open territories they closed due to over fishing back up for commercial long lining. They say it’s for research.

[SouthernWake]

SouthernWake, Imagine if federal authorities decided to stop even catch and release fishing for redfish and trout because their numbers MIGHT be down, even though you have witnessed a thriving population. Limiting or stopping intentional catching of redfish is already being discussed, at least at the state level, due to suspected release mortality.

Catch and release on red snapper is not threatened at all currently

The second part is not true. There is a population issue but closing C&R statewide is not on the radar.

[willk]

Catch and release on red snapper is not threatened at all currently

The second part is not true. There is a population issue but closing C&R statewide is not on the radar.

Yet

[b35w]

Catch and release on red snapper is not threatened at all currently

The second part is not true. There is a population issue but closing C&R statewide is not on the radar.

If catch and release is not threatened on ARS, then the current season/rules are absurd. I can’t remember the reported numbers when I listened to a call, but I believe the mortality rate was stated to be somewhere in the 60-70% range on caught fish. If that was true, why in the world would you not allow some sort of bag limit? The fish are going to be caught. 7 out of 10 are going to die. Makes absolutely ZERO sense.


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[12341234]

Do you think the commercial boats take any time out of their day to try and properly release reds?

[centurian]

Once went out on a head boat on topsail. The limit was so strick we didn’t even know what we could keep. On the first drop after a few minutes the down wind side or the boat was red with released fish struggling on the surface and dying . I thought what a waste in the name of conservation. No desender devises on head boats

[b35w]

Once went out on a head boat on topsail. The limit was so strick we didn’t even know what we could keep. On the first drop after a few minutes the down wind side or the boat was red with released fish struggling on the surface and dying . I thought what a waste in the name of conservation. No desender devises on head boats

My son went out on one last year. Same story……. Honestly, I find it almost impossible for the recreational angler to do the type of damage to a species to make it considered “overfished”, at least here in SC.

Which leads me to another frustration. Why in the ham sandwich would our fishery be lumped in with Florida? They are 2 completely differently fisheries. There is a reason each state has a separate deer season or county for that matter. I understand we are talking about federal regulation but the principal is the same.


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[mhogancu]

If catch and release is not threatened on ARS, then the current season/rules are absurd. I can’t remember the reported numbers when I listened to a call, but I believe the mortality rate was stated to be somewhere in the 60-70% range on caught fish. If that was true, why in the world would you not allow some sort of bag limit? The fish are going to be caught. 7 out of 10 are going to die. Makes absolutely ZERO sense.


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Kinda like having to keep striper right now……. If they gonna die anyways…..

[Saltydog235]

Once went out on a head boat on topsail. The limit was so strick we didn’t even know what we could keep. On the first drop after a few minutes the down wind side or the boat was red with released fish struggling on the surface and dying . I thought what a waste in the name of conservation. No desender devises on head boats

Those fish aren’t making it back down on a descending device. I’ve released a bunch of them and other species, triple digits, this year, sharks are on them either on the way up or the way down. Had the fish, lead and descending device get eaten a few weeks ago on a snowy. The new one has teeth marks on it. I’ve had tons just get plucked off the thing.

Technically the feds could get you for over limit or out of season and the DNR could get you for wanton waste. Heck, someone called the DNR on us saying we were killing tons of ARS because they didn’t know the difference between ARS, Silks, Blackfin snapper and 4-5# Bliners.

[usrgce]

Let noaa know I saw commercial bandit boats sitting in mpa’s multiple days last week, and saw a commercial tile boat setting gear. It’s a joke. Maybe they should follow the formula we used for ducks deer turkeys and other over hunted animals. Get rid of commercial fishing and let the people enjoy the public resource.

And they are about to re open territories they closed due to over fishing back up for commercial long lining. They say it’s for research.

You get names of boats and call them In?

[trash2]

Ban trolling motors and no one would bottom fish, just like it used to be.

[b35w]

Ban trolling motors and no one would bottom fish, just like it used to be.

As much as I love to spotlock on a spot, I’ll have to agree with you. It certainly makes bottom fishing a lot easier. I am not for banning them, but I will concede that it probably has some effect.


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[2thDoc]

i dont need an ar-15
and I like the taste of flounder.

[b35w]

i dont need an ar-15
and I like the taste of flounder.

Then you probably shouldn’t buy one


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