Quote Originally Posted by Highstrung View Post
I think the outcome was always solidified if we had resolve.. agree on their mistakes. The axis, mainly Germany bit the same with Japan was hoping for a quick war with limited limited resources. Germany wasted so much on inane projects. They brought Russia into the war, but we all know the main downfall was bringing us into it. Our industrial complex that occurred as a result forced a gap they couldn't compete with.

Huge and silly mistakes were made, even with D Day and Hitler not believing that was our main attack, which most people know here probably.. him holding up a counter attack for a few days certainly saved us lives and time. It was not a war they could sustain, an island nation and a smaller interior European county.. Italy was a joke, and probably half the country didn't want it.
They put stupid amounts of troops in Norway and it wasn't to protect the U boat channels. They had something like 1 soldier per 10 civilians, all because they looked arian. They ramped up the killing in '43 and the high command at least the Spier, Kammler, and Borman knew it. I guess you could say that was in retaliation for Heydrich, but they took on a furry of doing and massive amounts of resources were poured into the project. So much could have been used to fight the war. So man power was wasted left and right.

That said, folks dont realize how close the whole western from almost fell apart during the bulge. Had the skies stayed cloudy, or Skorzeny & his saboteurs reached the fuel depot and those panzers kept rolling we would have been dead in the Arden. It was only for a vigilante solider that realized what was going on and he set the fuel depot on fire starving the Panzers of much needed fuel. Skorzeny were so effect Monty and Ike had to get off the from line due to them causing so much havoc. I would suggest God had a hand in this once again. You had to have the 2 different instances happen to stop them again. It wasn't the ground guys that got the Nazis to move it was once the air power could get back in the air that caused the Nazis problems. Even then had they got that fuel I'd dare say it would at the least been a much longer war, perhaps even a totally different outcome. The Nazi's wanted to stave off the western front in a hope they would settle for a settlement that The Western Allies would stop, and the Nazis would not go after Britain. Then they could turn around and focus totally on the Russians.