H4820 Turkey Bill, Senate Subcommitte next Thursday.....

[2thDoc]

what's there to argue about?
seems like this would check a lot of boxes, right?

or am I missing something again?

[ccleroy]

I think it’s a good compromise on a lot of opinions. Hopefully the end result is beneficial for hunters and the bird.


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[Jay]

No bait period. For any hunting season. That would be a good start.

This. I cannot think of a more lame thing than sitting over a corn pile.

[centurian]

This. I cannot think of a more lame thing than sitting over a corn pile.

Agree. About the same as sitting on a food plot.

[flockbuster]

So once again let's don't listen to the people who are actually educated in this and whom we paid to do a study on. I love hunting in cooler weather but just damn. But, it's not like I expected any better from our elected officials. Don't know why I'm surprised or aggravated.

[hunterjw]

What’s the definition of a Jake? Beard length? Spurs?

If beard, what if it’s a mature gobbler with beard rot or you shoot of the beard.

[centurian]

So once again let's don't listen to the people who are actually educated in this and whom we paid to do a study on. I love hunting in cooler weather but just damn. But, it's not like I expected any better from our elected officials. Don't know why I'm surprised or aggravated.

In SC the biologist do studies and make recommendation to GA who then are lobbied by the by special interest and make a decision to pacify the special interest. Politics!

[PharmHunter]

What’s the definition of a Jake? Beard length? Spurs?

If beard, what if it’s a mature gobbler with beard rot or you shoot of the beard.

Can't do it by beard or spurs for reasons you mentioned. I assume full fan, as it should, would ID a mature gobbler. I'll be surprised but delighted if the Jake thing passes.

[CreekGeek]

What’s the definition of a Jake? Beard length? Spurs?

If beard, what if it’s a mature gobbler with beard rot or you shoot of the beard.

Not all toms have spurs and some are broken. Fans get beat up so tail feathers may not be reliable. Probably have to pull their jawbones and count their teeth.

[whistlinwingswilly]

"Beard less than 6 inches long AND tail fan that is not fully developed" is how jake is defined in the committee amendment.

[thunderchicken]

If you can’t tell a Jake from a mature (2yrs or older) when they’re in gun range, you need to find another hobby.

[quackaddict]

I feel like the kids should be allowed 1 jake in their 2 bird limit, if I have to find something to argue about. I don’t like the 1 bird in the first ten days thing either personally, but…


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[raybird]

If you can’t tell a Jake from a mature (2yrs or older) when they’re in gun range, you need to find another hobby.

that’s a strong statement.

Ive accidentally killed 5-6 jake’s over the last 30 years and im sure ill kill another one.

[raybird]

does no fanning/reaping end male strutting decoys??

[CreekGeek]

that’s a strong statement.

Ive accidentally killed 5-6 jake’s over the last 30 years and im sure ill kill another one.

It happens on occasion. As of right now on the app it says 9,471 turkeys have been killed this year. 549 have been jakes. If we are to the point where 549 birds are making an impact on our population we have much larger issues.

I think it unnecessarily complicates the turkey regulations. And who am I to tell someone they can’t shoot a Jake when it’s not going to impact a population. Several years ago I went to the Westervelt turkey school and sat with Tom Kelly, Eddie Salter and an 80 year old guide named Junior. As they sat and ate breakfast they lamented the days when they would shoot a Jake and be damn proud of it simply because it was a turkey. It changed my thinking a lot listening to those guys. They said at the time the earlier days were the bad old days of turkeys and we were currently in the golden age(this was a 13 years ago) and that it would cycle back down to somewhere in between. Boy were they ever right.

[Carlisle]

It’s disappointing they did not listen to biologists on pushing the season back so the birds can breed before being hunted. Other states have done this and been successful.

Not shooting jakes is a distraction that can be called a compromise from what needed to be done.


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[Glenn]

]It’s disappointing they did not listen to biologists on pushing the season back so the birds can breed before being hunted. Other states have done this and been successful. [/B]

Not shooting jakes is a distraction that can be called a compromise from what needed to be done.


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You could tell SC legislators that another state had the cure for cancer and they'd legislate leeches. SC is gonna SC regardless of data.

[Hogg]

You could tell SC legislators that another state had the cure for cancer and they'd legislate leeches. SC is gonna SC regardless of data.

Amen. Too small for a republic and too large for an insane asylum.

[GBelly]

It’s disappointing they did not listen to biologists on pushing the season back so the birds can breed before being hunted. Other states have done this and been successful.

Not shooting jakes is a distraction that can be called a compromise from what needed to be done.


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agreed and what I think I remember hearing and reading that the 4/10 date was so impactful, more so than the reduction from 3 to 2 bird bag limit

[flopduster]

So who are these senators that made these changes?


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