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    Regardless of what anyone believes about the reparations that were written into law by Congress following the abolition of slavery, the simple fact is that Congress did not write any such law. The Congress, with no native representation from former succeeded states failed to act on the act that was originally a battle cry of Mr. Tecumseh himself. More correctly, he proposed the 40 acres, then the mule came later. All of this would be overturned officially by President Andrew Johnson in 1865. So if you are paying attention, there was never a promise by DC, Congress or the President, just by a terrorist/arsonist who wish to bring chaos and hope to rally slaves to fight in the war on behalf of the union.

    Fast forward to 2019 and the Congress is still holding hearings about the subject. You wonder if a 100 years from now there will be hearings in Germany regarding the treatment of jews in WWII? Discussions and burdens placed on any set of the population 150 years after a deed is done puts six or seven generations removed in the crosshairs of a debate they had no part in now and their ancestors may not have even had then. The article below is worth the read and we should heed his warnings about upholding a "victom class". MG

    PS the link contains the video and it may be of interest to note that the subject, Coleman Hughes, is a man of color.

    https://www.mediaite.com/news/chill-...arations-bill/

    ‘Chill, Chill, Chill, Chill!’: Congressional Hearing Explodes As Witness Trashes Slavery Reparations Bill
    By Tommy ChristopherJun 19th, 2019, 12:00 pm

    A congressional hearing erupted when Quillette writer Coleman Hughes trashed a bill to study slavery reparations as a “moral and political mistake,” forcing the chair of the hearing to tell the audience to “chill” several times.

    The House Judiciary Committee’s Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights, and Civil Liberties held a hearing Wednesday entitled “H.R. 40 and the Path to Restorative Justice,” at which witnesses testified about reparations for slavery. HR 40 is a bill which proposes a commission to study reparations.

    Hughes testified for the minority and delivered a lengthy opening statement against the bill in question. After noting that “nothing I’m about to say is meant to minimize the horror and brutality of slavery and Jim Crow” and that he considers “our failure to pay reparations directly to freed slaves after the civil war to be one of the greatest injustices ever perpetrated by the US government,” he went in on the bill for four solid minutes.

    The audience at the hearing booed Hughes after he said, “Black people don’t need another apology. We need safer neighborhoods and better schools. We need a less punitive criminal justice system. We need affordable health care. And none of these things can be achieved through reparations for slavery.”



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    “Nearly everyone close to me told me not to testify today,” Hughes noted, adding, “They told me that even though I have only ever voted for Democrats, I would be perceived as Republican and therefore hated by half the country. Others told me that by distancing myself from Republicans, I would end up angering the other half of the country. And the sad truth is that they were both right. That’s how suspicious we have become. Of one another. That’s how divided we are. As a nation

    He went on to describe reparations as not just divisive, but an “insult” to “many black Americans by putting a price on the suffering of their ancestors, and we would turn the relationship between black Americans and white Americans from a coalition into a transaction.”


    Hughes went on to say that, “Reparations by definition are only given to victims, so the moment you give me reparations, you’ve made me into a victim without my consent. Not just that, you’ve made 1/3 of black Americans who poll against reparations into victims without their consent, and black Americans have fought too long for the right to define themselves to be spoken for in such a condescending manner.”

    “The question is not what America owes me by virtue of my ancestry, the question is what all Americans owe each other by virtue of being citizens of the same nation,” Hughes said. “And the obligation of citizenship is not transactional. It’s not contingent on ancestry. It never expires, and it can’t be paid off. For all these reasons, bill HR 40 is a moral and political mistake.”

    As the audience booed Hughes, subcommittee Chairman Steve Cohen banged the gavel and said “Chill, chill, chill, chill!”

    As the chamber quieted, Cohen added: “He was presumptive, but he still has a right to speak.”
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    For the record, Special Field Order No. 15 (forty acres and a mule) was signed into law by the president before Johnson. Johnson did succeed in stopping The Freedmen Bureau Bills, which was considered the earliest concept of The Civil Rights Act.

    Just gimme 20 acres and I’ll split it with a Native American.
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    If this can of worms is opened (doubt it will) it will become a pandora box of the same for Irish slaves, native Indians, imtrrmement camp japs, the list is long....
    The idea is as dumb as that messican crazy eye in NYC that's so new on the political stage!
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    Scott,

    My Cherokee blood has pointed me to the potential Teepee site above the cypress pond. I don't want 40 or 20 acres. 10 will be plenty. Thanks in advance.
    F**K Cancer

    Just Damn.

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    Vote pandering plain and simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geetch View Post
    Vote pandering plain and simple.
    Exactly.

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    Perhaps the least worrisome issue facing Americans today...

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    Sorry but Indians have already had their reparations. The casinos pay them great money and incredible benefits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calibogue View Post
    If this can of worms is opened (doubt it will) it will become a pandora box of the same for Irish slaves, native Indians, imtrrmement camp japs, the list is long....
    The idea is as dumb as that messican crazy eye in NYC that's so new on the political stage!
    The Japanese already got paid.

    In 1988, President Reagan signed the Civil Liberties Act to compensate more than 100,000 people of Japanese descent who were incarcerated in internment camps during World War II. The legislation offered a formal apology and paid out $20,000 in compensation to each surviving victim.
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    I think one needs to first establish whether the slave decedents are better or worse off today here in America than their ancestor's decedents are in their former countries. Simply do a study by tracking DNA back to their homeland and see how their quality of life compare to their relatives who weren't brought over. Let the study make adjustments for the cost of living and opportunities in the two countries. Pick a thousand applicants and lets get an accurate picture of what transpired.


    America might need to send them a bill instead of reparations.
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    America might need to send them a bill instead of reparations.[/QUOTE]

    Exactly

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    Quote Originally Posted by wob View Post
    The Japanese already got paid.

    In 1988, President Reagan signed the Civil Liberties Act to compensate more than 100,000 people of Japanese descent who were incarcerated in internment camps during World War II. The legislation offered a formal apology and paid out $20,000 in compensation to each surviving victim.
    I’ll take a 10 stack
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    Roddie, are you intimating that anyone of african-american descent is "owed" money from those currently residing in the United States?
    Ugh. Stupid people piss me off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2thDoc View Post
    Roddie, are you intimating that anyone of african-american descent is "owed" money from those currently residing in the United States?
    Well, he's of Bahamian descent. He should only get half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wskinner View Post
    Well, he's of Bahamian descent. He should only get half.
    Good one!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2thDoc View Post
    Roddie, are you intimating that anyone of african-american descent is "owed" money from those currently residing in the United States?
    Nope, and relax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roddie View Post
    Nope, and relax.
    You know by now Kevin don't relax!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2thDoc View Post
    Roddie, are you intimating that anyone of african-american descent is "owed" money from those currently residing in the United States?
    Aren't we all of African-American decent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calibogue View Post
    You know by now Kevin don't relax!
    FACTS
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