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DT, please tell me you really don’t believe you have to run across the lake in order to get to 95 from Wyboo. I may end up being wrong, but digging up ancient cypress from the river bottoms is one of those things that sounds better than it is. I’ve seen this before. It usually goes from look at all the money we can make to just a bunch of work that isn’t worth the squeeze. It’s all about barnwood now anyhow. Get caught up
Senior Member
Would this be considered if Hugo hadn't broken the trees off at water level?
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2th Doc's Fishing understudy
Ive got a few runs I would like to see cleared. My lower units would appreciate it anyways.
Originally Posted by Glenn
Senior Member
So just curious here, what would the plan be? Drop the lake 10-12 feet and cut the logs from a barge? How long would you expect that to take?
Senior Member
I scraped up my prop in Hamlin Sound. Can we get some money to clear out those treacherous oyster rakes?
Senior Member
[QUOTE=Duck Tape;2590383Why are all the other lakes cut? [/QUOTE]
even better question, why not utilize those lakes that are set up just the way you like them instead of changing this lake to the way you WANT it?
Black Duck
Savannah Lakes in the metropolis of McCormick SC says hello. I traveled there and did some work over the years. Developers along with politicians worked and got the federal government to sell land that belonged to the public in the guise of economic development. All amenities are there. McCormick doesn't have an interstate anywhere close like the towns you mentioned. They have purchased 4000 acres and have around 5000 homesites. They have their own voting block which is mostly a yankee population. Retirees with nothing to do but think about how they did things where they used to live.
Freedom nor slavery favor any particular race or people
Senior Member
Hold up...Why is Santee issuing an RFP? They are the seller...not the buyer. They going to auction off the timber?
Why now? Why after all these years is is so important and providing benefits? Why after the failed nuclear debacle? Why now that the state is soliciting bids for Santee? DT you are a smart man. I know you think we are all idiots here but damn...were there's smoke there's fire. And even us dirt-necks on SCducks can smell the smoke through our cigarettes on this one.
The Sherriff
I do not have any idea why they may come up with. I'm pretty sure the three govt agencies tasked with the study will not be as simple as I envision.
I would set up grids. Post the RFP. Set up the rules. Let them post a bond that requires them to clear their grid for at least 10 of clearance from high water mark. They can cut within 5 ft of bottom. Remove all significant size cuttings. Give them a couple of years. Lower the lake at the end to check the area for the 10 ft requirement. Give them a couple weeks to remedy any snags within the 10 ft zone. Release their bond. Raise the lake. Repeat if it is viable.
Either write things worth reading, or do things worth writing.
The Sherriff
Because we have enough political muscle interested in remedying an old problem. There is no hidden financial agenda. I have not talked to one timber person or company, not one developer, not one councilman, not one landowner...
except Inky. And we all know he ruined a motor once.
Either write things worth reading, or do things worth writing.
#hogfightclub
Why don’t we get C***** involved again with the Bridge to know where? DT you can have your Lake to know where and y’all can be on billboards together.
Shoot (dirtneck slang), probably cost the tax payers less than $150 million, that’s a bargain!
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COLUMBIA, SC
The S.C. Senate is refusing to pay any more for a Virginia-based consultant to study offers to buy Santee Cooper, a move that throws a wrench into legislative efforts to sell the state-owned utility and offload its $8 billion in debt.
In an email obtained by The State, Senate staff backed out of a weekly conference call with ICF — the consultant that spent months fielding and evaluating 15 bids for the 84-year-old utility — and said the Senate “wants to carefully consider the next steps in this process before committing to expending the large sums that may be necessary.”
The House and Senate already have paid ICF nearly $380,000.
At the prodding of Republican Gov. Henry McMaster, the GOP-controlled General Assembly is considering selling Santee Cooper after the utility racked up $4 billion in debt on the failed V.C. Summer nuclear plant expansion project.
ICF told lawmakers on Feb. 1 that three of the four credible offers that it has received to buy the utility would wipe out all of Santee Cooper’s debt. That would save the 2 million S.C. residents who get their power from Santee Cooper, directly or through an electric co-op, thousands of dollars on their power bills over the next four decades.
But the Santee Cooper sale study committee — made up of House and Senate members — said last week it wants more details on those offers before making a decision. It planned to hire ICF to provide those details.
Reached Thursday, state Sen. Paul Campbell, the Charleston Republican who co-chairs that study committee, said he was unaware the Senate had decided not to pay more to study Santee Cooper’s sale. He said he would talk with Senate President Harvey Peeler, R-Cherokee, about paying ICF to continue looking into the offers.
“It’s absolutely foolish not to go further with it,” said Campbell, who has been open to a possible sale.
However, Peeler said Thursday there is no point in paying ICF any more because there aren’t enough votes in the Senate to sell Santee Cooper. Of Campbell’s committee, Peeler said, “Their job is done.”
The House and governor disagree.
“Two weeks after Santee Cooper’s free-market value was confirmed and we learned that its sale would result in lower rates for its customers, some members of the Senate seem to have decided that none of that matters,” McMaster spokesman Brian Symmes said in a statement. “This is certainly a disappointing turn of events, but the governor is hopeful that the Senate will reconsider to continue this important process and think only of what is in the best interest of South Carolina’s taxpayers and ratepayers.”
Meanwhile, the House plans to move forward by hiring ICF or another consultant to further study Santee Cooper’s possible sale, even if the Senate won’t help pay the bills, staffers told The State.
The Senate, which can veto a sale, is skeptical of ICF’s findings.
Some senators have said they worry a buyer would gut Santee Cooper’s staff of 1,625. They also question how a for-profit utility with higher operating costs, including taxes, can buy not-for-profit Santee Cooper and provide customers with lower power bills in the long run.
ICF said those bills could drop from 2 percent to 14 percent.
Senate Majority Leader Shane Massey, R-Edgefield, said the Senate wants to know why “we should spend more money” after ICF already has studied the issue for months.
“Senate leadership is not currently ready to commit further funding for additional work by ICF,” Senate staff wrote in the email. “This is not a reflection of (Senate) leadership’s opinion of the work that ICF has done. As a matter of fact, leadership appreciates the work that has been done and believes that the report will be very helpful as we continue through the process of determining what action needs to be taken in relation to Santee Cooper.”
If lawmakers don’t sell Santee Cooper, they have other options.
Among the 15 bids that came in for Santee Cooper, seven were to buy the entire utility. However, ICF also fielded two offers to buy parts of Santee Cooper, four to take over its management and two to enter into a long-term agreement to supply power to the utility.
S.C. legislators also could continue to pursue some of those options.
Campbell told The State his committee shouldn’t be disbanded, even if it can’t hire a consultant to pursue a possible sale.
“We’ll do without it,” he said.
https://www.thestate.com/news/politi...226263730.html
Rush Chairman
Interesting that the President has had to shut down the government, and now enact a National Emergency to get $8 Billion for a wall to keep out illegal invaders, yet some in the legislature of South Carolina can't cede a little bit of personal power to SAVE the People $8 Billion in debt from corruption on their watch...
Senior Member
Where is the congestion in the creeks? I was on the Lake every Saturday and Sunday in June and July, didn't miss a weekend, from the river to the locks, Wyboo to Santee, there was no congestion. Shem creek is congested not lake Marion, This is a manufactured problem.
The Sherriff
We should cut the stumps and sell them to the feds for their wall.
Either write things worth reading, or do things worth writing.
The Sherriff
I guess there are no 25 ft tall stumps in the big water stumps either.
Either write things worth reading, or do things worth writing.
The Sherriff
Manhattan is congested not Charleston.
Either write things worth reading, or do things worth writing.
2th Doc's Fishing understudy
If they do sell SC, can we make sure they keep the hydro engineer that makes the decision on lake levels on staff? I'm pretty sure it must be the homeless guy that was living at the borrowpit, and I dont want to see him homeless again.
Senior Member
The issue that I have is not the project necessarily. I havent spent more than 40 hours on this portion of the lake in my life, and I know that you have. I dont have enough knowledge of this piece of the world to speak intelligently about it.
What I do have knowledge of is the consistency Representative Lowe has shown in his behavior in Columbia and on this site. He handles every issue in the same manner. It is not issue specific because it is who he is at the core. He believes he is smarter than everyone. He doesnt truly want the opinions of others because he doesnt respect others or their opinions. I can guarantee that there is something in this for him, or his wife. There always has been.
Part of me admires his capitalism, the use of his resources to enjoy time with his family, and working to give his family a better life. I can relate to those things. He likes to subtly rub peoples faces in it, but thats just what he does.
At the core, he believes hes better than you. He is going to respond at some point today that we should file and run against him. He always does. I dont want his job. I like my job. He could do his job without being condescending, but thats not who he is, and his constituents elected him. The devil you know is sometimes better than the devil you dont.
Them that don't know him won't like him, and them that do sometimes won't know how to take him
He ain't wrong, he's just different, and his pride won't let him do things to make you think he's right
They don't put Championship rings on smooth hands
Senior Member
With power comes money. Donald Trump is the only President in modern history that has nothing to gain from being president. He is actually probably losing earning potential by being in office. From the president to the state legislature, getting elected and holding power opens doors for you, your family, and friends. Most people benefit from holding their power, not our current President. Damn I love Donald Trump!!!!! He can actually legislate from his heart and conscience because is not endebted to anyone! We will NEVER again see another American President like this who won't be bought out again in our lives.
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