Boom Boom, and others....

[Nab]

Where did they go!?

[skydawg]

Again, I could care less if the release the damn things. Just shoot em until the government says its not good to have MRP's. Someone on here tell me where its illegal or has been proven, not potential, for states not to have MRP's. Again, i could care less about all this crap, just shoot em if you want, if not, let em fly, swim, or whatever a tamie does in your eyes. Go hunt for the real birds, or if your a tamie lover, sit in your truck and call em in. I just go hunt, if i shoot one, so be it. If i shoot all wild.... well thats tony the tiger GRRRRRRREEEEEEAAAAAAAATTTT. If i shoot a tamie, then thats one less botulism carrying, toe clipped, scwa banded,test tubed, turkey screwed, one winged, carrier pigeon screwed, owl-loving, trashy, duck you fellas dont have to worry about. If you go back and read all my post recently, you will see that the one thing i agree with Dissapointed on is having you facts straight. Tell me this on the other hand... If a report came out in the near future that stated MRP's had no bad implications, would your beliefs still be the same? Or would you keep entering that pool to win that gun at Drunks Unlimited or would you then donate to MRP's?

[2thDoc]

Originally posted by skydawg:
If a report came out in the near future that stated MRP's had no bad implications, would your beliefs still be the same? Or would you keep entering that pool to win that gun at Drunks Unlimited or would you then donate to MRP's?

<font size="-1" face="verdana,arial,helv">you are the hard-headedest, no-post reading SOB on this damn board.

ETHICS! Remember? It doesn't have to have anything to do with the disease carrying capacity of these ducks (that has been PROVEN, too). Why are you so hard of hearing? seriously, i just dont get it. Do you want the ducks you shoot to be released a few miles from where you shoot them?
Do you want the prostitution of this sport to continue? can you hear me???

[Turd Ferguson]

Originally posted by skydawg:
Or would you keep entering that pool to win that gun at Drunks Unlimited or would you then donate to MRP's?

<font size="-1" face="verdana,arial,helv">No need to donate to MRP's, ya just pay for however many pets, OOPS errrr ducks, you extinquished on your way out kinda like buying chicken at a grocery store. Drunks Unlimited doesnt need the money the CEO's have plenty of places to hunt now.

[skydawg]

2th,
That question is a "what if" question. If the study came out and said MRP's had no implications of hurting the duck population, would you support it if it made your duck hunting and your childrens duck hunting better? It has nothing to do with ethics... I dont think anyone wants to have to reinvent the wheel of nature.

[2thDoc]

it has EVERYTHING to do with ethics.

i take it that you just dont understand that part, so i will leave it alone....

[duckduckdog]

If there are not any ethics in the way I hunt then I don't want to hunt anymore. I don't have any kids yet, but I do have a nephew that is a little less thn 2 years old that I think the world of. I want him to understand how much of a responsiblity we as hunters have to the game that we hunt. I don't want him to think that hunting is all about killing. I will be the first to tell you that I don't kill a lot of ducks, I don't kill a lot a deer, I don't kill a lot of turkeys, but I what I do is enjoy yhe time that I invest in the ones that I am fortunate enough to harvest. I enjoy the time spent with friends and family in the great outdoors and the memories made. MRPs are about instant gratification. They are but one of the many problems of the "get it now" society that we llive in. I however, still live by the rule that anything worth having is worth working for. That is why I am against MRPs plain and simple. I would rather invest my time and effort in helping the wild birds by better management of the natural resources we have left, than pick my ducks out of some pen. Hunting is all about ethics and until you understand that, you will never understand what is wrong with the MRPs.

[skydawg]

Alright there 2th. Ethics 101 here i come. Killing a duck is unethical when you have plenty of food sources at the local piggly wiggly. You tell me that ever person on here eats thier ducks and i will gladly shut up about this. I understand where you are coming from, and i appreciate the debate and help to understand the MRP theories out there. But, in an open ended debate on something as simple as "is it good to release or not", everyone should lok at the situation and see it from both sides. Why do they release in the first place? Why have we released for years? Why havent they outlawed it? Why is it ok to release in SC and not FL? Is a breeded MRP and a wild duck a good thing? You can ask a million questions on the subject and the answer you get on here basically from most people are in layman terms is "tamies suck". But, i garantee there isnt a soul on this that wont shoot a tamie in flight. How do you know? I agree that our youth shouldnt learn that birds are storebought and " a dime a dozen", but if they learned more on the conservation side instead of the killing side, then maybe our youth would realize ducks are perishable. Tamies wont solve that, nor would they solve the predator problem. But when 30 years ago you wintered 100,000 birds on the lake and now its all gone, i can see why MRP was put in place in SC.... before money became an issue. Killing a duck is one thing but raising a duck to replace a wild duck is another. So what gives besides what the government is allowing which is MRP's and conservation groups. Until the two relate, then nothing will get done but 8 pages of "tamies suck!"

[Rock & Rye]

tamies suck! [img]graemlins/boo.gif[/img]

[DB5]

I agree that our youth shouldnt learn that birds are storebought and " a dime a dozen", but if they learned more on the conservation side instead of the killing side, then maybe our youth would realize ducks are perishable.

<font size="-1" face="verdana,arial,helv">I believe this boy might be comin to his senses...

Oh yea, TAMIES SUCK!!! [img]graemlins/fu2.gif[/img]

[Boom Boom]

All I will agree with the Asshat about is that-

<FONT COLOR="red"><FONT SIZE="+4">TAMIES SUCK!</FONT> </FONT>

[Turd Ferguson]

I will agree with what Boom Boom agreed with

Originally posted by Boom Boom:
All I will agree with the Asshat about is that-

<FONT COLOR="red"><FONT SIZE="+4">TAMIES SUCK!</FONT> </FONT>

<font size="-1" face="verdana,arial,helv">

[DUCKMAN]

TAMMIES SUCK!

You are blind to the reasons and to simple sanity. Read the full report by the USF&WS all 50 plus pages.

The reason it is not outlawed is 100% political - Listen to your biologist nation-wide. They stand united and it falls on deaf political ears.

It is biologically wrong(countless studies, such as the one that states they are poor nesters......is this why nesting success is down....because the poornester tammies are breeding with the wild birds and these poor nesting genes are being passed on to the wild birds? Makes just as much sense as anything that you have stated here!

Why is disease more rampant in areas where tammies are present? This is a fact and fully documented.

Regulate with shooting preserve status and it will go away....why?.....They all know what they are doing is biologically and ethically WRONG!

As long as Senator John Land is a Senator, the SC legislature will NEVER outlaw tammies!

Pure POLITICS that may very well cost us our sport!

[skydawg]

I am not blind there Duckman, i can see clearly now the rain is gone. I can see all the obstacles in my way......
Now that i got that out of my system, I will tell you this... I never said i was a tamie lover, and i can not tell a tamie from a wild bird in flight. I can not tell the difference between a true wild bird and a bird that is breed with a wild bird and mrp bird. I can not tell you why its still legal. Now the question i have for you is, can you tell me these things logically and provide proven facts to the things i can not tell you?? Can you answer those? If you can't, then just shoot them like i do and everyone else on this forum until its illegal. If you have shot a tamie then we are all guilty at some point.

[DUCKMAN]

I am sorry that you can not tell a tammie from a wild mallard in flight. There are several on this forum that I have hunted with that I have called the bird a tammie long before it died and have been right every time. Tammies always fly with a flared tail and the hens are ten to twenty times more vocal - they are very clumsy in flight and landing and tend to land in more open water situations than tight areas that wild mallards would use as they were taught from hatching how to to fly - land - rise and avoid decoys and calls.

I ask you once again to read the full report and the stance the USF&WS stated in the full report - It covers it from A-Z. The inbreeding problems - the cross breeding problems with blacks, mallards, mottled ducks and others and the disease with documented studies and direct disease association. The apparent lost-wandering of these birds from state to state with no logical explanation. The total ineptness of their ability to nest and raise a brood tending to always abandon a nest rather than sit a clutch yet the tammie drake would breed a snake if he could hold it still - so these terrible genes are passed to the wild mallards.

We do agree on one thing - shoot them.....every last one of them!

Yes - I shoot every one of the sickening excuse for duck hunting tammies! I wish I could exterminate every last one. I would be honored to kill the "last tammie" and I will be horrified and sick when the last wild mallard is killed because of the terribly wrong tammie program!

[2thDoc]

not to mention the ethics.

dont forget that part.

until the last breeding pair of migratory mallards is still alive on this earth....

[Hunt Master]

blah blah blah, Taimies suck, they should stop releasing birds, scwa sucks, but yeah I will shoot them. You claim they dont fly far from the release sites, then if you are not where they are released then how do you shoot them. You guys are a bunch of dumbasses, boo hoo, I hate tamies, but I will gladly shoot my limit of them, and be happy about it. You want to complain about it call David Weiliki the phone number is 452-6001. They are open from 8 to 5 monday through friday. If all you are gonna do is get on this site and bitch about, then just shut the hell up. Until you have the balls to talk to somebody who can do something about it.

[Wampuskat]

Yeah....give old wickylicky a call and ask him how much money he's making selling tame mallards to dumbass waterfowler wannabes...then discuss with him your "ethical" concerns and see where that gets you.

[Moatsy]

why do we continue to respond to those who don't even possess the capacity for abstract thought?

[Hunt Master]

Hey thanx to who ever changed my information, I really appreciate that. It showed your intellegence. I thought this was a good web site when I joined, but I was mistaken, there is mostly idiots who think they are duck hunters bitching because the SCWA wouldn't release birds on their sorry ass property. IT will be alright, just do a little more work to your ponds boys and give them a call back. I am sure they will reconsider releasing there. It is a damn shame that grown men get on here and wine like babies. You guys really need to grow up. You remind me of a bunch of little candie-ass pussies that if you where confronted in person I bet you wouldnt have as much shit to talk then. No body on here has ever done anything to stop the release of MALLARDS. So you guys just go ahead and get your flooded fields ready and just maybe a scwa duck will grace you with their presence, if not then I guess you have fun shooting those 4 mallards that might show up in your ponds and those wood ducks that are in every water hole in the state. Hunt out of you little boat blinds, and get mad and go home and pout because you didn't see any ducks. Until next time fuck you and have a nice day.