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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Krasko View Post
    The utility uses capacitors to raise the Power Factor. They use transformers to raise and lower the voltage.
    Line capacitors increase the voltage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JABIII View Post
    I am sure Rubberhead is right but here are a few particulars for y'all who deal with that shockey stuff...

    I work with the low voltage stuff and glass, the heck with the "shockey" stuff! I just always like to know, as I have to work around power all the time. I don't like it though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubberhead* View Post
    Line capacitors increase the voltage.
    No they don't

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    Power factor is the ratio of true power (watts) to apparent power ( KVA ). It is commonly referred to with motor efficiency in my experience. Ex. 2 hp motor has a wattage of 1.5 KW and a rating of 1.8 KVA. This would give the motor a power factor of 83%. Capacitors are used to correct the 17% loss in power factor. Their purpose, by definition is to oppose a drop in voltage. I will not claim to know how this works in power distribution, but I can see how it could work in the given situation to avoid a drop in voltage going into the transformers. Since we are having a good discussion, I am familiar with motor capacitors. Is there a difference in the function of line capacitors?
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    P. S. JAB III sorry about the hi-jack, but this is an area of interest for me and I'm always willing to learn from those with experience.
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    Most likely the transformer lost it's ground and the voltage began floating on the secondary side. I get at least 5 calls a year with this problem around Newberry. Primary lines are 7200 to 14000 Volts depending on utility company. The odds that the installed a wrong voltage transformer is very low, most houses get 15 kva x-formers and it is hard to mix up them up.

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    Smilee, what is the voltage on the primary of a typical pole mount residential transformer? Is it still 7200-14000 on the pole before the residential transformer?
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    7200v to 240v would work out to a 30-1 turns ratio in the transformer, so that would make a lot of sense if it was 7200v in the lines going into the primary.
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    It can be 7200 or 14400 it just varies with power company design on distribution lines. In our local area the coop is young the voltages to 14400, it is more efficient for local distribution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smilee View Post
    It can be 7200 or 14400 it just varies with power company design on distribution lines. In our local area the coop is young the voltages to 14400, it is more efficient for local distribution.
    Is Newberry tied in with Fairfield Electric?
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    JAB,
    I would step in here, explain what's going on, correct where these guys are wrong and answer all your questions.

    But these young boys need the experience, it'll better their future problem solving skills.

    Y'all boys carry on. I'll grade you later.

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    C'mon Mergie, we all know that you have a millennium of experience under your belt. Clue us in!
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    Newberry has a small amount of FEC Near broad river.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Krasko View Post
    No they don't
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    Man when I was growing up they hadn't invented electricity yet. We still used mules and steam. That new fangle 'lectricity didn't come along till I was in my 40s.
    The Elites don't fear the tall nails, government possesses both the will and the means to crush those folks. What the Elites do fear (or should fear) are the quiet men and women, with low profiles, hard hearts, long memories, and detailed target folders for action as they choose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mergie Master View Post
    Man when I was growing up they hadn't invented electricity yet. We still used mules and steam. That new fangle 'lectricity didn't come along till I was in my 40s.
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    So I need a volt meter/ multi meter thing. Can you dorks help out with that? I will cross post just in case.
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    Where do you want to use it, industry or classroom?
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    In a work setting get a Fluke, in the classroom/lab an Ideal is as accurate as any for less than half the price but it won't take the beating that a Fluke will.
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    Most likely cause of this would be a short in the transformer primary windings, which could give you the 276 volts line-to-line and 138V +/- instead of 120V line-to-neutral. This would certainly cause the issues you were having.

    The other possibility would be if a transformer with the wrong primary voltage rating was used by the Utility. This would have the same effect as your secondary voltage could be higher.

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