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Question for Trad.
A fellow was asking me the other day about a dove field located next to his pasture where he has horses. He feeds his horses sweet feed and hay daily and he was scared it would get him in trouble with his dove field which is on the other side of the fence. Is he safe or could he get charged for baiting?
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I know this is for trad but I've crossed this bridge once or and I think.........as long as the feed is in a feeding barrel, pan, trough, etc. then it is ok. I think the issue comes in when you dump it on the ground BUT I could be wrong.
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Natural AG practice. He is perfectly legal.
He is legal even if some grain is on the ground, spillage is normal.
There is a loophole here that I KNOW you can get away with more than you should.
But he should be fine.
Last edited by quack head 11; 08-14-2009 at 07:10 AM.
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Which I think there are all kinda BS in these rules.
Ya supposed to use "normal Ag practices" but they allow you to manipulate a field any kind of way except for adding grain.
You canhave a corn patch and run the heads through a chipper/shredder and be perfectly legal.
I dont know about yall but I aint nevr met a farmer that would chip and shred all his profit on the ground????
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The same ones plant corn and then flood the field, got to be a "normal ag practice". Its all BS legal loophole BS by legal lobyist and politcians, BS. Obama will fixit with more change one day...ALL HAIL OBAMA!!!!
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quack..I agree. Also, I don't understand how u can allow one person who has the means & time to grow a crop and then chip, shred, or whatever to get the seed on the ground. Then don't allow the person who does not have the means or time to buy seed to put out. Limits are there to regulate the harvest. It does not matter if u have 12 or 12,000 birds.
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Originally Posted by FHF
DING DING DING We have a winner. Absolutely right. Dont forget about the 3 shell limit also.
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you can shoot doves sitting on top of a silage pit or beside a feed bunk ifn you want to. Normal Ag practice as stated
you guys have fun beating this horse(it died a LONG time ago)
Last edited by quackaddict; 08-14-2009 at 09:30 AM.
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Why are y'all answering for Trad!!!!!!!!!
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Thank you. I don't have the means (equipment or money) to plant a high dollar, souped up dove field, so I get to sit at home. The regulations keep many people out of the field. (I know, I could go to a public field, but I'd rather jump off a cliff) Limits are there for a reason.
Also, doves have an EXTREMELY high natural mortality rate, so upwards of 90% of them don't survive until the next season anyway.
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i'm telling you...go find a farmer that feeds his cows at a bunk(be it pellets or silage) and ask him if you can shoot doves there. i GA-raun-tee that you will have plenty of birds to shoot
Man and other animals were first vegetarians; then Noah and his sons were given permission to eat meat: “every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you” Genesis 9:3
"A man may not care for golf and still be human, but the man who does not like to see, hunt, photograph or otherwise outwit birds or animals is hardly normal. He is supercivilized, and I for one do not know how to deal with him." Aldo Leopold
Well its already answered so just make sure i know when/where to come shoot!
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we have a shit load of doves in one of our feedlots out here plus all the birds the flock to our barley and alfalfa fields after they get cut (haying barley is leaves a lot of grain on the ground but makes great feed for cattle) but unfortunately the boss man says they all seem to disappear around the 1st when our season opens (usually have a good frost before Sept 1). now if I could just take advantage of the normal ag practices
Last edited by Southernduck; 08-18-2009 at 12:23 AM.
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Don't worry SD, wait until the Mallards show up! They ought to be like pigeons up there. I've seen thousands around a feed lot in Montana. I just didn't have the nerve to shoot 'em, it didn't seem right. Knowing what I know now, I'd have wacked 'em.
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"Normal Ag Practices" as defined for ducks and doves are a WORLD APART...
It is considered acceptable to manipulate crops for doves but NOT for ducks- I am betting the feed lot rule would NOT apply to ducks like it does for doves either.
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that would be interesting to know trad...you should look it up for us
question though. if the geese/ducks are there to eat through the cow shit and are nowhere near the bunks/et. al, would it be considered baiting? cows can't help but shit
Man and other animals were first vegetarians; then Noah and his sons were given permission to eat meat: “every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you” Genesis 9:3
"A man may not care for golf and still be human, but the man who does not like to see, hunt, photograph or otherwise outwit birds or animals is hardly normal. He is supercivilized, and I for one do not know how to deal with him." Aldo Leopold
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