Shame on Ducks Unlimited

[SCTurkeyGuide]

Wow, sadly enough there are a lot of comical responses. All JAB has to do is mention something (be it negative or positive) and he has an immediate following; regardless of each individuals understanding of the subject/topic.

Bottom line, you're not going to agree with every single decision made by a single person or a single organization. Like eating catfish, eat the meat and spit out the bones.

By the way, if you (understood you - not someone directly) have put in for a draw hunt for one of the 26 designated draw hunt sites you are hunting an area that DU has pumped dollars and resources into. If you're not going to support them then don't put in for the draw hunts and don't support SCDNR, NAWCA or the Land Conservation Bank just to name a few orgs who all work with DU to conserve wetlands and habitat improvement. If you're going to be that fickle, at least be consistant.

On another note, a very good friend of mine is on the Board of DU. He's paid his own way to go to Canada twice and a couple states in the US for meetings. DU didn't foot his bill. So to answer the colloquial question, DU has done a ton for me, moreso than for him. I've been drawn for a public hunt site 2 out of the past 3 years (in SC). He's only been drawn once in the past three years (in SC). He understands what it means to give to an organization which works diligently to conserve wetlands habitat so that in turn we can all enjoy a tradition we love.

I encourage "you" to read up, do some research and figure it out for yourself. After that you'll be able to make your own mind up and carry on an educated conversation about it. However, if you simply jump on a bandwagon based on what someone else tells you then you are a hingepin on society and probably voted for Obama.

[romeocadet08]

COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT ANY BETTER.

So perfectly put SCTG. Its probably always a pretty good idea to at least have a "general" knowledge of what your talking about before trying to down play DU. They have conserved over 12,000,000 acres of habitat.

Take a look at SC on the most recent (Jan 1, 2009) conservation projects map.
http://www.ducks.org/media/Conservat...caProjects.jpg

It pretty much speaks for itself and I'd be willing to bet that at least half the people bashing DU's effort have participated in some way, shape, or form of a hunt that DU helped make possible or at least tried to improve. Maybe some landowners who have impoundments may have benefited from a nearby DU projected that has thus improved the surrounding habitat.

The examples could go on and on. The simple fact is that DU has done a lot more for you then you think. Next time, right before you start spewing horse shit out of your mouth...stop and think what went on "behind the scenes". Especially if you hunt public land.

[Poppa Bear]

We had a gentleman here that was very big in the DU organization and he told me himself that he was done with DU.. This was 20 yrs ago.. I asked why ? He went to Canada and saw DU Board members and Staff on a Goose Hunt in Canada.. and they drove up in Camo Limos and got into pits... slaughtered hundreds of geese and left them in the fields to rot.. He quit and never looked back..

I have tried to keep an open mind with DU.. but with them supporting the GG (Gore Garbage) I won't give them another dime.. if going Green is so important to Al Gore, why isn't he doing it ? He lives in a mansion and doesn't have CFL's in his house and surely doesn't backup what he says.. If anything, there are hundreds of companies out there that have their agenda's and missions to sell their products and Al Gore probably gets all the crap for free..

The Cap and Trade bill that is going to the Senate is going to really affect us big way... You (if on Santee Cooper Power) are going to see a rate increase in November of about 15%... If the CRAP and TRADE passes the senate, then you can tack another 30-40% on to that !!!!!!!

If DU is supporting this action... then I ain't supporting DU and will send them a letter to that effect... I won't buy another single product with DU on it....

Think about this... If your light bill increases 40%, then all the other goods and services that you pay for are going to go up as well... Gas,Food,Clothing, etc.. because those store owners, manufacturers are going to have to raise their prices in order to pay THEIR bills...

YOU WON'T HAVE MONEY TO HUNT DUCKS !!

[mello_collins]

I truefully believe that the warming is directly related to the proximity of the sun and increased solar radiation cycles.

Here is an excellent write up about it and the science about it using LONG term data.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/...r_radia_1.html

[DMP]

I was at a meeting the other day with some other DU state chapters and the question that we all hear came up which is what has DU done for me. Now I dont have anything to back this up but our state chairmen stated that DU has spent more money in the state of SC than any other state in the Atlantic flyway. Whether its true or not they have done some good things in this state and nation wide and probably some bad. Like them or hate them we would probably be in a worse position than we are now with duck numbers and habitat across the country with out them.

[duckduckdog]

DU has done a lot of good in this state... That does not excuse them from being responsible in what legislation they openly support.

[Duckman#1]

"DU Board members and Staff on a Goose Hunt in Canada.. and they drove up in Camo Limos and got into pits... slaughtered hundreds of geese and left them in the fields to rot.. "



I'll have to call BS on that one !

[JABIII]

10-4 Duckman. That is bullshit.

DU board Members pay their own way. DU doesn't even own an airplane. Not many Org's that bring in 180 Million a year can say that...

[romeocadet08]

i dont agree with the legislation that DU is backing but thats just the way it goes. There are pros and cons with everything, no matter what the situation at hand may be.

I was simply addressing the individuals that constantly bitch about how "DU does nothing for me" blah, blah, blah.

[SCTurkeyGuide]

JAB, thank you for this thread. I hope that it's "encouraged" at least a couple guys to do some research on their own. I respect you and abhor your opinions becuase you don't spew off at the mouth... you know what you're talking about and make a point based on your beliefs, research and opinions. I respect that and won't argue. Though I may disagree from time to time, so be it.

To the rest of the gang, please do read up on it and ask questions. My e-mail addy is Joseph.Tyler@Ricoh-USA.com I'd love to reply with various news releases and studies endorsed not only by DU but also by SCDNR, NAWCA, SCLB etc. After reading up and studying the facts therein, go ahead and plaster your opinion here for all to read. But until you can back it up with factual findings, keep your "opinion(s)" to yourself.

I had a college professor challenge me one day. He said something along the lines of... "If you go to church or 'religeous' ceremonies because your dead parents would be disappointed in you if you didn't, then you are flat out stupid and ignorant." That peirced my heart in a big way. I realized then that my "religeon" and beliefs were mainly and mostly in part to the way I was raised... not because I wrestled with various topics on my own accord. Please read up and become someone whose opinion is listened to and not someone who is discounted as being a member of the bandwagon.

Though I do not support every single decision that DU, Delta or FF make I support each organization and will stick up for each organization because I've taken the time to ask questions and learn more about each org's standpoint.

I'm not calling anyone out, merely am calling more to action. Stop whining and saying crap like "not another dime to DU" until you can substantiate your claim and back it up. Too many clanging cymbols on here. Just take a few minutes to look at the scoreboard and try to figure out how you can be a player and make a difference istead of sitting on the sideline heckling the people who are actually making a difference.

I'm done. See you fellas on Saturday morning at BG.

[wbrown609]

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=103634

DU, thanks for your support.....Sincerely, Al Gore

[JABIII]

Looks like it cost the Big Mon his $270,000 a year job...

" Don Young, executive vice president of Ducks Unlimited for the past 10 years, is resigning effective Aug. 1. The nonprofit group didn't say why Young was quitting but said a nationwide search is under way for his replacement."

http://www.startribune.com/sports/ou...tml?page=2&c=y

[cudexter]

I'm available for hire.

[Turd Ferguson]

What is that smell?

[drwilly]

By the way, if you (understood you - not someone directly) have put in for a draw hunt for one of the 26 designated draw hunt sites you are hunting an area that DU has pumped dollars and resources into. If you're not going to support them then don't put in for the draw hunts and don't support SCDNR, NAWCA or the Land Conservation Bank just to name a few orgs who all work with DU to conserve wetlands and habitat improvement. If you're going to be that fickle, at least be consistant.
posted by turkeyguide.

I agree w your point re being informed and consistent.
I don't disagree w your main point but.....whether DU has pumped money into to state draw hunt sites doesn't dictate if I put in for them nor does it mean I support them. The notion that one should not put in for a draw hunt if they dislike DU is ridiculous. There would still be state drawhunts without DU. Maybe the state should have some draw hunt sites that specifically DONT use DU dollars. then those opposed to DU could only put in for draws there...but of course DU supporters could only hunt the other areas. again i want to be CONSISTENT...that is ridiculous.

[drwilly]

those who love DU and those who hate DU mostly all seem to be drinking the same koolaid either way.

any individual or group may do things or have premises with which I disagree. The question is when does the disagreement become pervasive or egregious enough to cause me to change my endorsement.

[wbrown609]

When they support the biggest tax increase in America's history.

[ChocTango]

some simple facts...
1. one of the largest producers of "pollution"....volcanoes.
2. what creates ozone? sunlight (ever wonder where the "hole" in our ozone layer is, above our poles where the sun only shines for short periods throughout the year)
3. measuring of ice samples in the south pole PROVE that we are in a cooling trend (and that is not abnormal) and that the earth goes through vast periods of cooling and warming.
any scientist that says these things are barred from the scientific community and dont get me started on the THEORY of evolution

[MattB]

To think that man cannot have huge negative impact on the earth's climate (whether it is in fact happening now or not is beside the point) is like believing that a inanimate conglomerate of proteins and sugars, phosphates, nucleic acids, and Magnesium, that has no reproductive machinery of its own, cannot affect the entire population of humans. Virus' have reaked havoc on us for eons

[wbrown609]

"whether it is in fact happening now or not is beside the point"..........What is the point of enacting the biggest tax increase in our nation's history if it is not happening?...and while I'm at it and getting ticked off thinking about this crap....this tax increase will be on top of the taxes already increased via the stimulus bill, omnibus bill, universal health care, expanding government bailouts and takeovers, etc.