What's the bounty?

[Saltydog235]

No I dont, he has actively spoken out against the evils of communism on multiple occasions.

He realized it was a failed system. He as a leader wanted the best for his people. Yeltsin was about to sell the Russian geographical area out. Putin realized this would hurt his beloved Russia and revolted.

Let me ask you.

If America falls and you find your self at the helm behind the puppet, will you go along or say hell no....The American public for all its faults are a proud people and we will rebuild????

He has promoted the immortal regiment. This was and has been confused with promoting communism, but the fact is there was an invading force called Nazis, and the Russian people sacrificed far more than we ever dreamed to defeated them. The celebrate the win. This has some how been confused with promoting communism.

It's a celebration of those whom gave their life to protect Russia.

Putin is a hardline communist dictator wrapped in a failing democracy/socialist regime. Putin is a murderous, evil, criminal POS. He’s as dishonest, crooked and power hungry as any dictator ever. Ukraine is a cesspool of corruption involved in a war with another cesspool of corruption. The US is fighting a proxy war with Russia through Ukraine to further weaken Russia and get Putin overthrown.

[skrimp]

Putin is a hardline communist dictator wrapped in a failing democracy/socialist regime. Putin is a murderous, evil, criminal POS. He’s as dishonest, crooked and power hungry as any dictator ever. Ukraine is a cesspool of corruption involved in a war with another cesspool of corruption. The US is fighting a proxy war with Russia through Ukraine to further weaken Russia and get Putin overthrown.

I agree with with you. I think he's just egotistical enough to use nukes if he thinks he will lose power. We just need to stay the hell out of there.

[Silentweapon338]

I agree with with you. I think he's just egotistical enough to use nukes if he thinks he will lose power. We just need to stay the hell out of there.

him???

We are the ones talking about "Limited exchange"

Let me enlighten you. Russias doctrine is sling it all if we are attacked. That means the big boys. And we have no way of defeating all they have. And they have more than we do. Those Agesis ships will knock a few out but not all. And it only takes a few by the way. Hence my comment about limited.

[BOGSTER]

Yeah, I’m far more concerned with LG than I am with Putin.

[JBtflo]

If you had listened to Putin a year ago he said the mission was to "denazify" and demilitarize Ukraine not to take land. They are close. The Azov battalion is almost gone, and the Ukranian military has been bled white.

That's funny. Putin uses denazification to try to garner support from Russian citizens. He is KGB and while he has profited bigly and may actually be one of the richest people in the world, he still longs for the Russia of old.

[Saltydog235]

him???

We are the ones talking about "Limited exchange"

Let me enlighten you. Russias doctrine is sling it all if we are attacked. That means the big boys. And we have no way of defeating all they have. And they have more than we do. Those Agesis ships will knock a few out but not all. And it only takes a few by the way. Hence my comment about limited.

BS, Russia runs its mouth like China and the fat boy in PRNK, Putin’s been throwing around a nuke strike as long as his mistake in Ukraine has been going on. Why hasn’t he if he’s as tough as he claims? He’s a classic bully, he picked a fight and got more than he bargained for. He steps back and keeps talking but won’t act. Using a nuke in Ukraine would be his undoing. He’d become a pariah throughout the world. Allies would turn their backs, sanctions would increase or massive reprisals would overwhelm them. The Russian military by and large is shit. Conscripts, drunks, poor training, limited amounts of advanced weapons etc.

You’re right about Russian doctrine though, they’ll feed a meat grinder against advanced weapon systems and be ground to a pulp. That can’t even handle what they’re involved in now.

[Saltydog235]

Yeah, I’m far more concerned with LG than I am with Putin.

I’m more concerned with 95% of domestic politicians and their lack of connection with their people and the issues they govern over with zero knowledge of either.

[Silentweapon338]

BS, Russia runs its mouth like China and the fat boy in PRNK, Putin’s been throwing around a nuke strike as long as his mistake in Ukraine has been going on. Why hasn’t he if he’s as tough as he claims? He’s a classic bully, he picked a fight and got more than he bargained for. He steps back and keeps talking but won’t act. Using a nuke in Ukraine would be his undoing. He’d become a pariah throughout the world. Allies would turn their backs, sanctions would increase or massive reprisals would overwhelm them. The Russian military by and large is shit. Conscripts, drunks, poor training, limited amounts of advanced weapons etc.

You’re right about Russian doctrine though, they’ll feed a meat grinder against advanced weapon systems and be ground to a pulp. That can’t even handle what they’re involved in now.

I dont think you understand.

They aren't the ones calling for"limited nuclear exchange". It's the west, that is.

The problem is if we do that they will turn everything loose. We have no way of stopping it. ZERO. We can stop a few here and there but we will be gone.

They actually have a pretty great air defense system. Not to say they will not get hit, but no one wins in an thermo nuclear war, at all. No one.

[skrimp]

him???

We are the ones talking about "Limited exchange"

Let me enlighten you. Russias doctrine is sling it all if we are attacked. That means the big boys. And we have no way of defeating all they have. And they have more than we do. Those Agesis ships will knock a few out but not all. And it only takes a few by the way. Hence my comment about limited.

I'm agreeing with Salty's post about Putin being a POS and corrupt. I agree with the Ukraine being just as bad. Do I think Putin would go nuclear? I really don't know but I wouldn't slap him in the face and double dog dare him like the US has. We've tried to be the world's police and it's been warranted in some instances. Vietnam, Korea, a lot of what's happened in Central America, Cuba(we put Castro in power) and a lot of the mess in the Middle East has been nothing but fuel for the military complex. Eisenhower warned us of this right after WW2.
Not a single soldier should be put in harms way for the bullshit reasons we've sent our sons and daughters to fight for. Washington is the most treacherous enemy the US has.

[scatter shot]

^^^ I love my country but fear my government. I dont trust a single thing they say.

[DRDUCK]

Think about this. The war starts about this time next year and the elections get cancelled because of it. The left radicals stay in power and the idiot is still walking around like he ain't got a clue.

[Silentweapon338]

I'm agreeing with Salty's post about Putin being a POS and corrupt. I agree with the Ukraine being just as bad. Do I think Putin would go nuclear? I really don't know but I wouldn't slap him in the face and double dog dare him like the US has. We've tried to be the world's police and it's been warranted in some instances. Vietnam, Korea, a lot of what's happened in Central America, Cuba(we put Castro in power) and a lot of the mess in the Middle East has been nothing but fuel for the military complex. Eisenhower warned us of this right after WW2.
Not a single soldier should be put in harms way for the bullshit reasons we've sent our sons and daughters to fight for. Washington is the most treacherous enemy the US has.

Russias nuclear doctrine calls for all out retaliation. If we try for some "limited" exchange which has been called for it will not be limited. They will unload on us.

I disagree about Korea and Vietnam. Central America and Cuba. Yea thats our back yard.

[Saltydog235]

Ho Chi Minh tried to gain US support and backing to unite Vietnam and help it set up a democratic form of government after WWII. He tried repeatedly and was dismissed, branded dangerous, then an enemy. He then turned to the USSR and changed his political doctrine and hated the US for what it had done to him and the people of Vietnam. The US did something very similar in Ukraine during WWII. Our politicians don’t learn from their mistakes.

[Silentweapon338]

You are very much correct in that. Dulles and the CIA funded Diem as a third alternative and financed Diem, and then trained them in "secret police" aka gustapo, boys we snagged back in 1945 from a little country called Germany, they were used to teach the Diem team how to use terror to subvert their opponents.

The French were still trying to hold on, and we wanted it as a client state of ours. In order to do this we had to oust the French hold. In all this Ho Chi did go to the communist and they were all to happy to help.

JFK had just signed a resolution to get our "advisors" aka spec ops out days before his assassination. The day after the assassination LBJ resented that order as his first order of business. Shortly after we have a false flag called Gulf of Tonkin, and then we are off to the races.

One can argue had we stayed out the Chinese would have over extended themselves and Chiang Kai-Shek could have made an come back especially if we had had helped him, and we would not have the CCP today.

Unfortunately we now know that the US government had been infiltrated by communist. McCarthy tried to root them out but others protected them, and tried to demonize McCarthy. but it were these key figures whom stopped the money flowing to Kai-Shek. They turned out to be communist.

[w33kender]

We're supporting Ukraine because they're cashing in on the quid pro quo of Biden's vice presidency. Joe got millions for his family and favored support for Ukraine continues. This war isn't the good vs. evil story the MSM has sold the public. There are no good guys in this story, including us.