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[Silentweapon338]

Goodness. You're a real badass. Shooting a belt fed auto over the heads of some kids fishing? Really? Wow. I can see why you dont want any vegetation next to your dock on a public lake.

Those were not kids.
Habitual repeat offenders.
Quite much adults.

[Highstrung]

Goodness. You're a real badass. Shooting a belt fed auto over the heads of some kids fishing? Really? Wow. I can see why you dont want any vegetation next to your dock on a public lake.

Me and a buddy were the only ones allowed to fish Camden Country clubs ponds in years.. we were younger, in the 80s when kids weren't supposed to be seen, even though my buddy and I could beat most of the grown men out there. Other kids saw us once, tried the same, ended all of it. Fast forward to today, my son is at work there today.. as soon as he clock's out he'll be in a cart heading to a couple of the ponds, rods in tow

[BigBrother]

Me and a buddy were the only ones allowed to fish Camden Country clubs ponds in years.. we were younger, in the 80s when kids weren't supposed to be seen, even though my buddy and I could beat most of the grown men out there. Other kids saw us once, tried the same, ended all of it. Fast forward to today, my son is at work there today.. as soon as he clock's out he'll be in a cart heading to a couple of the ponds, rods in tow

Good stuff. Surf Club, Gator Hole, and one in Little River I disremember the name of now were my primary haunts. There were some feeder ponds not part of the actual course but held some nice fish off of Sea Mountain Highway not far from Platts as the crow flies. Back when NMB was still a small town everyone knew everyone else, and folks weren't basic assholes. I didnt make a mess, I didnt try to stand out. If they ponds werent dyed blue I was pretty safe. I released everything because I sure didnt want to eat any golf course fish but I caught some fine bass and bream.

[MolliesMaster]

Goodness. You're a real badass. Shooting a belt fed auto over the heads of some kids fishing? Really? Wow. I can see why you dont want any vegetation next to your dock on a public lake.

It’s his world man, we are just living in it.

He’s got ponds to fish so who cares if the lake has any wildlife. Can’t let other people’s wants and desires get in the way of his natural swimming pool/tubing arena.


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[Silentweapon338]

I never shot any where near them they were not any danger what so ever.

Not sure why I would endanger folks fishing when I didn’t shoot folks actually pointing guns at me.



No different than shooting a shot gun blast like joe Biden says.

Just faster.

I do want wild like on the lake just no weeds or grass.
There are plenty of ponds to keep that mess in

Leave the lake for energy production and recreation.

That 52 mil number keeps getting thrown around

I’d like to see the property tax rolls for just the upper lake and Murray

I promise you that dwarfs that 52 mil
So if I’m one of those folks I wanna say in those weeds and extra traffic.

[Silentweapon338]

It’s no wonder socialism is permeating our society.

Here we are on what most would consider a libertarian to conservative leaning site.

I’m being chastised for running trespassers out of my property???

I pay way too much in taxes stress too much in how to
Make pay roll. Keep all the gears oiled and then some how build maintain ponds hunting lands for quail, turkey, dove, deer.

Now I’m public enemy number one because I don’t want the general public abusing my benevolence.

Several members on here fish in several of the ponds.

Guess what they asked.

I’m talking about people whom didn’t have the decency to ask.

In the case of this past weekend. The kid lied through his teeth.

On top of that he actually fished the pond a few days earlier and posted pics of himself trespassing.

I wonder what y’all would say if I snuck into Ralph and sniped off some tomatoes and herbs??

What’s the difference?
He worked his ass off for that property and the biproducts??

Y’all are
Pure hypocrites.

So what if I want to fish in your wife??

Is
That ok?

Where is the line?

I admit that is a big jump but the Ralph and garden isn’t.

Private property is private property. Or at least we
Use to look at it that way.

Who I allow is my business.

[BOGSTER]

Thank God Santee Cooper and DNR have younger, newer, and more intelligent people behind the wheel in regards to SAVs.

The Karen’s, Yankees, and Silentweapons of the world had their time.

Grass on Marion and Moultrie is looking better every year.

[TheVisorGuy]

It’s no wonder socialism is permeating our society.

Here we are on what most would consider a libertarian to conservative leaning site.

I’m being chastised for running trespassers out of my property???

I pay way too much in taxes stress too much in how to
Make pay roll. Keep all the gears oiled and then some how build maintain ponds hunting lands for quail, turkey, dove, deer.

Now I’m public enemy number one because I don’t want the general public abusing my benevolence.

Several members on here fish in several of the ponds.

Guess what they asked.

I’m talking about people whom didn’t have the decency to ask.

In the case of this past weekend. The kid lied through his teeth.

On top of that he actually fished the pond a few days earlier and posted pics of himself trespassing.

I wonder what y’all would say if I snuck into Ralph and sniped off some tomatoes and herbs??

What’s the difference?
He worked his ass off for that property and the biproducts??

Y’all are
Pure hypocrites.

So what if I want to fish in your wife??

Is
That ok?

Where is the line?

I admit that is a big jump but the Ralph and garden isn’t.

Private property is private property. Or at least we
Use to look at it that way.

Who I allow is my business.

You do realize the primary word in conservative is conserve right? Like keep things how they were intended to be.

As for people fishing in your pond, nobody would have given you shit for running folks off had you not admitted you wanted to turn santee into lake Murray.


When you started in with the diarrhea of the keyboard fingers people will take aim at the low hanging fruit. That’s just how it be around here

[centurian]

can i bream fish in one of those pomds.

[BigBrother]

You started out the fish poaching conversation about kids fishing your ponds. Then you started talking about all your connections and then shooting a belt fed automatic over someone's heads fishing your pond(s). Naturally someone would think those were kids you were running off. It takes a special kind of asshole to fuck with kids fishing that arent causing problems. So I was talking to what I thought was a special kind of asshole.

Also, I am not sure but discharging weapons in the direction of someone sounds like something that could get litigious. I'm not sure I'd leave that post is it stands if I were you.

It's your property, do as you see fit. Let who you want on it. I dont care. I'm assuming it's a pretty big piece of dirt if you're pumping rounds in the air so if they're that deep in it for the rounds to fall inside your domain they're pretty committed to the trespass.

Since we're on the subject of property and such... How much of the lake do you own around your dock?

[Silentweapon338]

To be clear that pond is on a track with a 1200 yard range with a berm an Col. from Ft. Jackson helped me construct with the books they use for the range up there. The repeat offenders had been asked multiple times not to fish, as the bank is extremely sharp. It was and still could be a hazard for someone whom fell in an and counldnt swim.
My neighbor called me as I was uptown. He asked them to leave. They refused. He called me. I drove home. I have to pass said and to get to my house. When they saw me they appeared to be packing up to leave. They had played this trick before. I was in a suit so I had to go change what not. Took about 20 min plenty of Time for them to pack up and leave.

When I arrived back at the pond I did not see anyone visible from my perspective. It's my property with a containment area well suited to contain a .223 round. I let the fire arm eat. About 10-12 rounds in I saw hands pop up. I immediately stopped. I asked what they were doing hiding. Didnt they know this was a live range? Back then there was a sign that said live range. They gathered their items for real this time. I never had anymore trouble out of that group again. So while I appreciate the wisdom, and I would take it down, but it has been quoted too many times and that would stay up. I'll just explain what happened.

I'm not sure why anyone would think it was kids quite the opposite. Most kids or at least use to be polite. Now a days??? It's generally thugs and ganif g bangers I have issues with.


I havent changed on my stance on grass in the lake as I noted and have to take heat from everyone about it. You know the answer to the dock question( maybe you dont), but my point was about the property taxes that go with that dock. Most folks have to "rent" 10' from Santee that own property. Some were grandfathered in, but most have to actually pay a rent. If someone is paying the taxes on that property next to the lake why shouldn't they have a say in the grass issue. It affects us 24/7 365. Some of us could care less if grass allows for a larger bass. There are plenty enough as is in the lake to catch now with out turning the lake back into the swamp from which it came from.

[centurian]

It was a fine recreational lake before they killed the grass and weed beds. Most of the vegatation was not around piers or inhabited areas but I am sure some is from time to time.

[Silentweapon338]

It was a fine recreational lake before they killed the grass and weed beds. Most of the vegatation was not around piers or inhabited areas but I am sure some is from time to time.

It was fine up until hydrilla. In order to combat that hideous stuff they had to take drastic measures. It killed everything. There had been a happy median for some time. While you all will disagree. Now we are slowly creeping back towards that mind set where more veg is better, and it will only be a matter of time before the pendulum swings all the way back to complete analyzation. Then you all will be screaming.

[JimmyD714]

It was fine up until hydrilla. In order to combat that hideous stuff they had to take drastic measures. It killed everything. There had been a happy median for some time. While you all will disagree. Now we are slowly creeping back towards that mind set where more veg is better, and it will only be a matter of time before the pendulum swings all the way back to complete analyzation. Then you all will be screaming.

Hydrilla is awesome and we should keep it. If DNR is against it because it's non-native then how do they defend stocking stripers where they wouldn't exist and stocking hybrids which is literally a test tube experiment?

I mean I love catching both of them so I'm not at all against stocking them. I also understand know how great of an impact hydrilla can have on fishing and duck hunting. Bring it back.

Have you ever burned a buzzbait along side a mat of hydrilla and watched a 5 pounder make a splash like a bowling ball was just dropped? I have.

[Coastal Woodie]

I've never had a real problem with grass at our place in potato creek. We used to pull it all up by the roots during the summer and it's slow at coming back.

[JimmyD714]

Maybe I'm confusing it with milfoil?

I know both get such a bad rap and, as a result of an attempt of total eradication, DNR killed lots of native SAV here.

I have no idea what it looked like beforehand because I wasn't here, but I do know what lakes with milfoil and hydrilla look like in Tennessee. They have fantastic fishing and much improved duck hunting. I could name several lakes there and in other Southern states that fit the same bill.

So all this talk about how it's bad for the fish and other species, I've just never seen that firsthand so I'm bit hesitant to believe it.

Same for the few years I lived in MN. The parts of the thousands of lakes choked out with that stuff is where the ducks would be. In the Summer you'd catch fat, healthy bass in there. I'd flyfish and catch 8-9" bluegills all day out of there. If those plants were detrimental to the fishery or other wildlife, I surely haven't seen where. But I'm open to being told otherwise, maybe I'm wrong.

[Catdaddy]

Hydrilla, Canada Geese, Mottled Ducks, Blue Catfish, and Flathead Catfish are non- native to SC. All but Mottled Ducks have some bad side effects as well as good side effects.

The main difference is the SCDNR is responsible for all but the hydrilla.


I left coyotes off the list because the DNR won't admit to releasing them.



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[Silentweapon338]

Santee not DNR eradicated the hydroplane.

The original name and is the reason that lake is there was
The South Carolina Power Authority.

Its main purpose was not to gosh but to generate electricity.
They use to be hard on that and I suspect when the grass gets bad enough again they will repeat the stance of we are in the power making business not the fishing or boating business.

As you Jimmy admitted you were not here.
It was terrible. With out exaggerating I could walk almost half way to DT house from mine with out ever going below my waist. It was gross.

You couldn’t ski you couldn’t tube about the only boats that could get around were glitter boats and they had to stay in the small lanes that looked like deer paths and had to stay on top flying. It totally sucked for everyone but the folks fishing.

It started messing around with the power generation if I recall correctly and that’s what started the war.

It was great to see those billboards reminding people to not bring that evil stuff into our lakes.
If you never saw it you can’t understand. I rendered the lake useless if you wanted to fish for anything but bass.

There were no Matt’s the whole thing was the Matt.

As far as the strippers at least in Santee they got land locked then they were stocked.

The lake had to be rushed to finish due to the war effort.

It’s why the lower lake looks like Murray and the upper lake looks like someone just flooded a swamp. Because that is exactly what they did.

The lower lake was cleaned out and built. You can see some of it in the “brown book” the original “white book” shows it all and is super neat. Also up to Hugo the dead forest literally was a dead forest. Hugo snapped the tops off and left the “stumps”

The reason you end up with the larger logs that float up every so often is the cables let go.

In an effort to hurry up and start making power they didn’t have time to finish the upper lake like they did the lower so they literally took cables and strapped the cut timber down. The pictures are simply amazing.

It isn’t that I don’t love that lake or it’s history it’s the damn grass I don’t like.

I spent a many an hour tracking down old pics, maps and history about that lake. When the lake went down in ‘07 I was able to go look at many underwater objects that are historical. Incredible. Simply incredible.

But I compiled quite a bit of info during that time. Did an interview for a news paper. I have the 3 quadrants framed and in my den in Florence. The department of war did the topography. I managed to find these in the basement of Carolina and had them laminated and framed. I keep 2 sets down at the lake to show folks.

My bar/table is an epoxy cut out my wife and I did and made. It’s really really cool.

[Silentweapon338]

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I can change the light colors.

I put glow in the dark powder as well so if I charge it with light it comes on with out the lights.

I like the lights off in the day time.

I can’t find any up close pics.

Really neat the way the epoxy worked out.

But I cut that out by hand then we put “pixie” lights in the cut out poured the blue/green epoxy on top
Installed the stickers with all the details and info about the lake and finally covered it with clear epoxy.

[JimmyD714]

Your table looks really cool.

How does TVA manage to have a chain of reservoirs full of both milfoil and hydrilla and still generate electricity without spraying a bunch of chemicals to kill everything?

Chickamauga and Guntersville come to mind.