Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 72

Thread: Pine tree value

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Nov 2001
    Location
    Columbia, SC
    Posts
    47,894

    Default Pine tree value

    What is the average value of one acre of mature pines?

    How long from planting to harvest?

    I dont want to get into a long discussion about loggers and foresters. Just answer the damn question.

    Its not like I'm coming on here asking about my broken arm or "target anxiety" wtf that is....

    pines.
    one acre.
    value
    over time

    thanks

    and yes, loggers suck and tear shit up and leave.
    and, yes, I like toilet paper.
    Ugh. Stupid people piss me off.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Summerville
    Posts
    5,873

    Default

    What kind of pine?
    Member of the Tenth Legion Since 2004

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Posts
    2,192

    Default

    How many acres?

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Georgetown
    Posts
    660

    Default

    Mature planted pines (25-30 yrs old) grown for timber production you are looking at roughly $2,500-$3,000/acre. It’s going to take 25-30 yrs to get to a final harvest depending on a lot of factors: genetics, site prep, soil type, etc. typically you will thin twice over that 25-30 yrs. Once at roughly 15 yrs old and again at say 20ish years old. Each of those thinning should generate around $300/acre. These numbers are variable obviously based on markets, location etc. This is for loblolly pine.
    Last edited by scquackaddict; 01-12-2023 at 10:06 AM.
    More Ducks, Less People

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Posts
    8,199

    Default

    Would you look at that? It only took 3 replies.


    Pay the man, 2th.
    "This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you." John 15:12

    "Strive for peace with everyone, and for the holiness without which no one will see the Lord." Hebrews 12:14

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Columbia
    Posts
    9,142

    Default

    Make sure you net out the cost of trail cameras
    Them that don't know him won't like him, and them that do sometimes won't know how to take him

    He ain't wrong, he's just different, and his pride won't let him do things to make you think he's right

    They don't put Championship rings on smooth hands

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Location
    Wateree, South Carolina
    Posts
    48,812

    Default

    Not as much as this acre...



    Or even hemp which can generate $50k on the high side...

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    SC
    Posts
    24,412

    Default

    Here's a 29 acre track that was cruised in October 2020. Send me an email and I'll send you the file.

    It came out to $1860 per acre. I didn't cut it.

    Updating the figures, the current price would be about $2200 per acre,....not counting the increase in tonnage based on 2 additional years of growth.
    Attached Images Attached Images
    Last edited by Catdaddy; 01-12-2023 at 11:27 AM.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Feb 2018
    Location
    Border of both Carolinas
    Posts
    4,366

    Default

    JAB's acre > 2th's acre

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Fort Kickass
    Posts
    50,993

    Default

    I'll give you $25.
    "Rivers and the inhabitants of the watery elements are for wise men to contemplate and for fools to pass by without consideration" -Izaak Walton

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    SC
    Posts
    24,412

    Default

    I'm waiting for this size. It took these guys 13 days to cut this tree.Screenshot_20230112-085620.jpg

    Sent from my moto z4 using Tapatalk

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Nov 2001
    Location
    Columbia, SC
    Posts
    47,894

    Default

    thanks scquak. about what I expected. just looking at crunching some rough numbers.
    Ugh. Stupid people piss me off.

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Posts
    8,199

    Default

    Finally gonna update the durango?
    "This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you." John 15:12

    "Strive for peace with everyone, and for the holiness without which no one will see the Lord." Hebrews 12:14

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Columbia, SC
    Posts
    3,946

    Default

    Now here’s another question, how many acres of mature pines does it take to build a 2500sqft house?
    Sea Ark 1542 w/ Yamaha 40
    Xpress 16 w/ 50 Hammer
    War Eagle 15 w/ 30 Hammer

    --------------------------------------------------

    "Sometimes you gotta grab the bull by the horns and the women by the tits and take charge in your life" - General Patton

    "I'm very drunk and I intend on getting still drunker before this evening's over."
    - Rhett Butler

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Location
    Newington GA
    Posts
    4,858

    Default Pine tree value

    Quote Originally Posted by Buckin Bronco View Post
    Now here’s another question, how many acres of mature pines does it take to build a 2500sqft house?
    50 to 75 acres depending on grade of wood
    Once the mill starts cutting oversized slabs, then size the wood, then grade the wood. They only mill certain size trees , the big one in grandma’s yard, they don’t want
    Last edited by Timsmith; 01-12-2023 at 01:24 PM.

  16. #16
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Hampton Co./Bluffton
    Posts
    7,817

    Default

    $2688.50 per acre.

    28 years old.

    Remember to burn
    Quote Originally Posted by Chessbay View Post
    Literally translated to, "I smell like Scotch and Kodiak".
    "Let us cross over the river, and rest under the shade of the trees"- Gen. Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson

  17. #17
    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Location
    Sullivan\'s Island
    Posts
    12,866

  18. #18
    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Location
    Camden, SC
    Posts
    811

    Default

    In northeast columbia you can grow four houses per acre which would make land worth $80,000. They will burn the trees to make room for the "green space" between houses.

  19. #19
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Posts
    13,499

    Default

    Probly worth a good bit, but you'd have to come out of pocket to get someone to be willing to deal with your mood swings and soccer shenanigans
    "They are who we thought they were"

    You can dress a fat chick up, but you cant fix stupid

  20. #20
    Join Date
    Oct 2019
    Location
    Upstate
    Posts
    764

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by 2thDoc View Post
    What is the average value of one acre of mature pines?

    How long from planting to harvest?

    I dont want to get into a long discussion about loggers and foresters. Just answer the damn question.

    Its not like I'm coming on here asking about my broken arm or "target anxiety" wtf that is....

    pines.
    one acre.
    value
    over time

    thanks

    and yes, loggers suck and tear shit up and leave.
    and, yes, I like toilet paper.
    So - I would equate your question to someone coming into your office and saying their tooth hurts.

    All sorts of stuff can impact the 'value' 'over time'

    First and foremost is the main thing you can't change - location.
    Next hardest thing to 'change' - soils
    Then you can get into genetics and a different treatment options to 'change' the capabilities of the trees/soil.
    Next thing to figure out is what rotation you would want to utilize? one thin, two thins, no thins? You going to try and get some pole quality trees or just clear cut when you hit X year and the price works for you? In the right place you could probably even get away with a pulpwood rotation and have a better ROI. But I digress.


    Now... I know what you will say to all that - that you just want a damn $ amount. Not all that BS. So lets go with 'average' or 'typical' for all of the questions above. Average soil, average genetics, average rotation of two thinnings and a clear cut.


    I am 100% sure someone will disagree with me, this is SCDUCKS after all. Also tooth, these would all be gross values. Don't forget you gotta pay your useless forester and the tax man. Here we go for tooth for some loblolly pine:

    First Thin Income, Age 15ish: $200-$400/acre
    Second Thin Income, 5ish years after first thin: $800 - $1,200ish/acre
    Clear Cut, age 25-30: $1,500 - $2,500/acre

    So - some simple statistics: over a 25-30 year rotation, $2,500 per acre on the low end, $4,100 on the high end although it pains me to make such large generalizations. Keep in mind the time value of money as well ought to be factored into all of this. $4,100 in thirty years is not worth $4,100 today.

    Again - I think this is a major oversimplification of all this but final thought - there are things you can do to change these numbers, both in regard to biological aspects and product markets.

    Edit to add - Keep in mind you will have a cost to establish the stand that needs to be factored in as well, if you are starting from scratch. Let's say $250-$500 per acre.
    Last edited by dubs; 01-12-2023 at 03:40 PM.
    Formerly DM88

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •