doe management

[b35w]

Our deer density in Orangeburg county is probably one of the highest in the state. That being said we (neighbors included) kill 5 to 1 doe to bucks I’d say as a group on all but one property. The buck hunting is phenomenal and we don’t have to depredation hunt nearly as much as the crop damage is way less in the spring. It’s just great hunting, I sit way more than the average hunter and I went 2 times all year where I didn’t see a racked buck.

Let me get in lol


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[JimmyD714]

Food plots and cut ag fields are not the same as pouring piles of corn and again these are strawman arguments. Next it'll be, "do you use anything other than throwing a spear? How's that ethical?"

[Whackumstackum]

Did yall miss me? I just took a short break, got busy with other stuff for a bit.

Everyone figured you were off sucking dick somewhere up north and giving hunting advice about places you’ve never been. I killed that doe with her head buried in a corn pile while I relaxed in an office chair with a roof over my head by the way. She was exactly 301 yards away also.

[b35w]

I’m of the opinion that even a deer on a corn pile had more of a chance than a beef cow with her head locked in a fence with a feeding trough in front of her.


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[justhuntin]

I would hope not

Movie quote from Cool Hand Luke.

[JimmyD714]

Everyone figured you were off sucking dick somewhere up north and giving hunting advice about places you’ve never been. I killed that doe with her head buried in a corn pile while I relaxed in an office chair with a roof over my head by the way. She was exactly 301 yards away also.

Very mature. I still don't get the "up North" references you keep saying about me seeing as I'm from Tennessee. I only lived in Minnesota for 3 years man.

I was busy with work and actually working hard to kill deer, unlike the corn pile shooters. I killed 4 and earned every one of them. Wish I had killed another 3 or 4 does, maybe next year.

[scquackaddict]

On our place in the upstate we haven’t seen any decrease in deer numbers. If anything maybe an increase. We kill our fair share too doesn’t seem to make any significant difference in population. Oh yeah and we have feeders.

[TheVisorGuy]

Ed how long has orangeburg area been allowed to bait?

[TheVisorGuy]

On our place in the upstate we haven’t seen any decrease in deer numbers. If anything maybe an increase. We kill our fair share too doesn’t seem to make any significant difference in population. Oh yeah and we have feeders.

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[jcoker]

Depends. I listed recently to a discussion with a biologist who was giving rough estimates of distance that an animal can no longer sense human presence. Can't smell you, can't see or hear you. So you could be upwind wearing a suit of flashing lights and bells and doing jumping jacks and a deer wouldn't know. I forget what the distance was, I want to say 300 yds for whitetail deer. So the discussion was around what is still ethical when it comes to long range rifle shots. I'd say if you're out of the range of the animal having any possible chance of detecting you then, no, it is not fair to the animal.

As for scopes, I think they're great. They allow the hunter to pull off a more accurate shot which greatly reduces the chance of an unrecoverable deer. Without bait, you still have to put in the effort to figure out where the deer bed, where they travel, find hot oak trees, where they might show themselves during shooting light, and numerous other things to make everything lines up perfectly for a shot opportunity.

Pouring a pile of corn is lazy and requires no effort. Peeing in a toilet without hitting the seat requires more skill than killing a deer over a pile of corn. Did yall miss me? I just took a short break, got busy with other stuff for a bit.

Whatever makes you feel better. You're still a hypocrite in this matter.

[JimmyD714]

Whatever makes you feel better. You're still a hypocrite in this matter.

lol. Another round of name calling with nothing to back up the argument? I've seen this movie before.

Glad to see proper doe management. They're good freezer fillers. Now learn to do it without pouring corn and you've accomplished something.

[Smilee]

On our place in the upstate we haven’t seen any decrease in deer numbers. If anything maybe an increase. We kill our fair share too doesn’t seem to make any significant difference in population. Oh yeah and we have feeders.

Average tract size in the area?

My point is the issue comes from the guys baiting a small tract of land and killing anything that steps out to eat. Its happening and will affect you eventually.

[jcoker]

lol. Another round of name calling with nothing to back up the argument? I've seen this movie before.

Glad to see proper doe management. They're good freezer fillers. Now learn to do it without pouring corn and you've accomplished something.

You confirmed it for us.

[Boduke]

When I went by Vox's processing in Johnsonville Thursday evening they had 16 does laid out on the dirt and 4 men cleaning as hard as they could go. Feller said we brought the first buck he had seen all day. Quite an outfit they've got going. Seems to be plenty of does in GZ 4.

Ain't much skill in still hunting over cob/shelled corn. Sit there and wait on the scope to turn brown. Now if you're doing it with a bow, there's some skill/knowledge in that. I enjoy eating deer, and I enjoy sitting in a tree watching them a couple days out the year, but it don't hold a candle to bird hunting.

[JimmyD714]

Are lowcountry adult does bigger than upstate adult does? Might be fun next year to try something different and maybe spend a week down there with a couple extra doe tags.

[scquackaddict]

Average tract size in the area?

My point is the issue comes from the guys baiting a small tract of land and killing anything that steps out to eat. Its happening and will affect you eventually.

Average tract size is small say 50-100 acres. Getting smaller by the day thanks to development. I understand your point and I’m not saying you’re wrong but based on abt 18 years of observation I’m just not seeing it. Also depends a lot on who your neighbors are. We have good neighbors.

[Rubberhead*]

I tried to shoot a doe once. I missed. Dad said it was psychological. I don't try any more. I see does when I sit. I stop counting at 20. I stop counting a lot.

[darealdeal]

Upstate. Hunt a 100 acres. 54 which is a hay field and the rest wooded. Got 2 small plots 1 feeder. Last 3 years just 4 bucks and about 10 does. Still in the process of working the wooded area a little. Next year is gonna be a 1 to 2 deer limit maybe next 2 years. Nothing to look out across the field at night and see 20 deer out but starting to see more and more bucks.

[Whackumstackum]

I tried to shoot a doe once. I missed. Dad said it was psychological. I don't try any more. I see does when I sit. I stop counting at 20. I stop counting a lot.

We will shoot them all summer long and they’ll rot in the field. Long as you’re good I’m good.

[Whackumstackum]

Average tract size in the area?

My point is the issue comes from the guys baiting a small tract of land and killing anything that steps out to eat. Its happening and will affect you eventually.

The small tract guys can’t shoot but so many, make your side more attractive and you’ll put them out of business.