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    My 8 yr old shot a giant saturday morning. Horizontally, the shot was money. Vertically, kind of high. When he shot him, the deer ran probably 40 yds and everything went silent. We backed out and gave him about an hour or so. I tracked him 600 plus yds with decent blood. It was high up on leaves and on the ground. The blood up high was stringy almost the consistency of snot but bright red. Never saw any bubbles and the blood on the ground was also bright red. The deer ran down hill for the most part, then got in a gully and ran up a steep bank. (started worrying). He circled back going towards where he shot him then lost the blood. Brought one dog in saturday around lunch time. She trailed him backwards all the way back to the stand and was give out once we got her back going good. Brought another dog in yesterday but didnt have any luck. Never found the arrow either. Hoping to see some buzzards later this week or possibly see him back on camera somewhere. My question is, is the dead zone shot a legit thing, or do yall think he's laying somewhere dead? Hindsight is I should've snuck back in there by myself and tried to shoot him bedded down, but I was confident he smoked him.
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    He is laying up somewhere. There are very few places in the thorax and cranial abdomen where an arrow going through them will not result in death in minutes to hours. If the arrow went through the thorax, it will collapse both lungs so long as it passed through or came out eventually (meaning the entrance/exit wounds are not plugged). I would estimate that without finding the deer in short order, it is likely that the major vessels and heart were missed.


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    That sucks to hear, what was the draw weight and how far was the shot?

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    what kind of penetration did he get? What kind of broadhead? Any chance the arrow deflected upon entry being that it was a high hit already? Being an 8yo, I would assume very low draw weight, combined with a high shot, no bubbles in blood...... Its possible that the arrow didnt penetrate the rib cage and only suffered a flesh wound.... look for buzzards! Good Luck!

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    No such thing as a dead zone. You're either in the chest or you aren't. There's no dead space in the chest.

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    He shot it with a crossbow at 20 yds on the nose. I'm not saying that it didn't pass through, but I never found it. It's really open where he shot it, so I feel like if it had went through, I would've found it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn View Post
    No such thing as a dead zone. You're either in the chest or you aren't. There's no dead space in the chest.
    I thought the same thing until I googled it. It says it's between the lungs and spine. It said "pink, sticky shreds of blood" which is what I was finding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckin Bronco View Post
    First one of the season unless it’s fake
    What?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn View Post
    No such thing as a dead zone. You're either in the chest or you aren't. There's no dead space in the chest.
    What Glenn said. The dead zone is a myth. If it was high it may be through the backstraps.

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    There is no way that I can fathom that a 20 yard crossbow shot wouldn’t be a pass through
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coastal Woodie View Post
    What Glenn said. The dead zone is a myth. If it was high it may be through the backstraps.
    If it was that high, would it have bled like it did? He was bleeding pretty decent. There was probably 4 places where he stopped and it was a spot about the size of a paper plate each time. The rest of the time, it was a good enough trail where you didn't really have to get down and look for it. But then, it just stopped.

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    Best advise I ever got while looking for a big one I knew I had killed was...

    Big deer do big deer shit. He's there and and he's dead. You've probably walked by him a dozen times, like I did mine. They like to scrabble up under the most impenetrable shit you can find and die there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kquinn View Post
    There is no way that I can fathom that a 20 yard crossbow shot wouldn’t be a pass through
    Happens often with giant mechanical broadheads. Not a nock on em, because I’ve seen them work just fine quite often, but if you’re after penetration, especially on big deer, they are a momentum killer. Some are better designed than others, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kquinn View Post
    There is no way that I can fathom that a 20 yard crossbow shot wouldn’t be a pass through
    Now it's not one of those $2000 deals. It probably shoots 250 fps give or take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakey View Post
    If it was that high, would it have bled like it did? He was bleeding pretty decent. There was probably 4 places where he stopped and it was a spot about the size of a paper plate each time. The rest of the time, it was a good enough trail where you didn't really have to get down and look for it. But then, it just stopped.
    He will bleed like a stuck hog if it went through the back strap but the deer will live. I had it happen a couple years ago. I'll see if I can find the trail cam pic a couple weeks later with the hole in him.

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    Should of called Spud?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBrother View Post
    Best advise I ever got while looking for a big one I knew I had killed was...

    Big deer do big deer shit. He's there and and he's dead. You've probably walked by him a dozen times, like I did mine. They like to scrabble up under the most impenetrable shit you can find and die there.
    There's one big gully close to where we lost him. If he's dead, I think that's where he's at. We took the other dog in there yesterday and walked him up and down it but never found anything. I've never wanted to find a deer so bad in my life. It's the first one he's ever shot at, so that part sucks too.

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    Hitting too high can be a problem for sure.

    i never find those deer.
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