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[BCR3]

Just think of the quality security u could fund with 40 billion dollars.

Yep! This needs to be federally funded. No rental cops.

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[LC17]

As tragic as these shootings are, I hate the idea of focusing on locking down our schools---that's the wrong message to send our kids regarding freedom in this country. Even with the recent cluster of shootings, the chances of you or your kids dying in a shooting are vanishingly small. You and they are in more danger riding to and from school every day. You can make any activity safer---going to school, riding in a car, etc---but you have to ask yourself how much risk you're reducing and what you're giving up (the cost) to lower it. "Because it might save just one life" is never a good rationale for decision-making.

[ziggy]

I'll take ssri in the toxicology report for $1000, Alex.

absolutely, no doubt about it.

police stood around with their dicks in their hands for 40 fucking minutes hearing gunshots go off, when (according to prior reports) they saw that the gunman was by himself when he ran into the school from crashing his truck.

what the fuck is going on here.

[Sportin' Woodies]

No words for that.

[ziggy]

As tragic as these shootings are, I hate the idea of focusing on locking down our schools---that's the wrong message to send our kids regarding freedom in this country. Even with the recent cluster of shootings, the chances of you or your kids dying in a shooting are vanishingly small. You and they are in more danger riding to and from school every day. You can make any activity safer---going to school, riding in a car, etc---but you have to ask yourself how much risk you're reducing and what you're giving up (the cost) to lower it. "Because it might save just one life" is never a good rationale for decision-making.

there is zero argument against having some sort of automatic access control in every elementary school in america. that's low hanging fruit that we all should be able to agree on and implement.

[2thDoc]

Any government should have a healthy fear of those it seeks to govern. No revision needed.

do you really think we own guns to overthrow a tyrannical government?

[Test]

Simply…you are wrong.

I coulda stopped at “you are wrong,” but I want to make sure you know that attaching your “position of authority” on the subject to your piss poor logic and dangerous opinion won’t float very far with us or anyone else with decent sense for that matter.

Ok. You just lost any shred of credibility you may have had. What are you doing on this site when you have zero understanding of basic firearms. You are a troll and a closet leftist lib…go away please.

I am in no position of authority, nor have I allured to this. I believe i made it very clear in even mentioning my job in how it relates to my experiences, and it is these experiences that shape all of us. Yes I firmly believe values and views can be dynamic. I have no grandiose motive that my views should be shared by all, that is not a free critical thinking society behaves, discourse is good. In fact I would prefer everyone to not think exactly like me, that is boring and inhibits progress whatever you feel progress may be. My opinion on this matter hasn't changed with this recent school shooter, however I decided to share it now as I know people actually are interested in the debate whether they are interest in dissenting view points or not.

Now whether I am a troll that is not for me to decide, but I can promise I am not a liberal. If you aren't allowed to think outside of your parties official stance at times, do you really have any political views at all?

I promised myself once I made my point and the discussion was no longer meaningful I would sign-out again. I have shared my "opinions" as I enjoy others doing as well even when vary from mine.

[w33kender]

talkin about school guards/SRO, lets be honest for a minute. most of the ones I've seen over the years aren't exactly the cream of the law enforcement crop

I've known some good ones. And some others.

Unfortunately, one of the good ones I know had to take a life in the line of duty while serving in a public school when a student came at him with a big knife. He got sued, the district got sued, but he was vindicated by his wounds. Clear case of self-defense.

[w33kender]

I am in no position of authority, nor have I allured to this. I believe i made it very clear in even mentioning my job in how it relates to my experiences, and it is these experiences that shape all of us. Yes I firmly believe values and views can be dynamic. I have no grandiose motive that my views should be shared by all, that is not a free critical thinking society behaves, discourse is good. In fact I would prefer everyone to not think exactly like me, that is boring and inhibits progress whatever you feel progress may be. My opinion on this matter hasn't changed with this recent school shooter, however I decided to share it now as I know people actually are interested in the debate whether they are interest in dissenting view points or not.

Now whether I am a troll that is not for me to decide, but I can promise I am not a liberal. If you aren't allowed to think outside of your parties official stance at times, do you really have any political views at all?

I promised myself once I made my point and the discussion was no longer meaningful I would sign-out again. I have shared my "opinions" as I enjoy others doing as well even when vary from mine.

You're not a troll. And I appreciate opposing views. I color outside of the lines regarding conservatism a bit myself, ignoring or disagreeing with many talking points. Though we disagree a bit on the AR-15, I'm glad you said what you think.

[drwilly]

do you really think we own guns to overthrow a tyrannical government?

no but that is one of the main reasons for the enumerated right.

[2thDoc]

can anyone admit that our uninfringeable right to bear arms already has limitations?

[BCR3]

can anyone admit that our uninfringeable right to bear arms already has limitations?

Easy - You are gonna piss off the masses again.

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[2thDoc]

no but that is one of the main reasons for the enumerated right.

and I totally agree....however, note my next post. IMO, there will be gun legislation. We need to think what that might be.
We can yell and scream about mental health and parents....but you arent going to govern them. I wish we could, sometimes.

[2thDoc]

I'm here, once again, to show the other viewpoint.
and defend Test, prn

[Saltydog235]

The argument is not at all whether banning guns will prevent school shootings, the debate should be whether banning certain type of guns will inhibit the inability to kill large amounts of people quickly before you can be neutralized.

Well hell, they’re using the wrong weapon to begin with then. Imagine if one of these nutjobs walked into a classroom with a tactical shotgun loaded with buckshot and some speedloaders. Confined, short range space with 9+ projectiles on every shot. We banning shotguns now or buckshot. It doesn’t matter what you do, there is always going to be a way.

[mjiorle]

Schools have got to be one of the hardest places to make "secure" and still operate for their intended purpose.

[2thDoc]

yall want to live in a country where schools look like jails? fences w razor wire and a cop in full riot gear patrolling the perimeter with an AR?

how many school shootings have we had? out of how many schools?
lock a door and have a central entry point. problem solved.

[centurian]

It is all politics now with no solution even sought.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sch...ng-republicans

[BuckyTownsend]

can anyone admit that our uninfringeable right to bear arms already has limitations?

Yes it does. Pretty much any gun law on books is an infringement.

[DoubleSprig]

do you really think we own guns to overthrow a tyrannical government?

Well, not only for that… they are fun to plink with and hunt with too. But it is this dude’s reasoning.
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