Things aren’t like they use to be

[Gut_Pile]

and I cleaned the bathroom at limbo
and the kitchen floor.

they really look nice.

I used neither, so they should still look really nice

[trkykilr]

I think outlawing male turkey decoys would be a good start

[JABIII]

It is us, but I believe that if the problem is ever seriously studied, the problem will be chemical. Atrazine? Or just humans pissing unmetabolized birth control into every waterway on the planet...

[GBelly]

It is us, but I believe that if the problem is ever seriously studied, the problem will be chemical. Atrazine? Or just humans pissing unmetabolized birth control into every waterway on the planet...

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[darealdeal]

So what did we come up with after 15 pages?

Bogs wrong or Bogs right or no one thinks that row crops manipulates birds at all?

If corn does not manipulate them at all then can we just go ahead and legalize baiting? What's the point of it being illegal if it will not impact the birds overall migration?

We obviously need better farming practices and striker limits and seasons on breeding grounds as well as here. Might not see so many people travel west for 3 or 4 birds. I think we also have to look at it as a whole and think about what happened with the quail.... What did they do back in the day when the population declined as fast as it did? If we take some of the value away from the ducks we will also decrease the incentive for some land owners to provide habitat thus resulting in less habitat as well? So what is the plan to compensate those that provide actual habitat for both breeding grounds and wintering grounds when we deceased the money or incentives involved in the duck..... It doesn't seem to have worked out well for the quail and seems that before long we will be at a point of release birds like already in the AF for ducks if we are not already at that point like England.


Sooooo to get back on topic.... Those with some wisdom... What is the answer? We can have a positive impact... Look at what we helped do with turkeys and what was done for the wood duck back in the day.... We can just have to be willing to do the right thing and make sure it is actually the right thing.....

[Tater]

Quail decline = KY31 fescue.

[swampknob]

Quail decline = KY31 fescue.

Then why do isolated areas with 10k-30k acres of quail habitat still have to supplement with early release?

[Rubberhead*]

Then why do isolated areas with 10k-30k acres of quail habitat still have to supplement with early release?

Because it became not cool to shoot Cooper's hawks.

[Catdaddy]

Quail decline = KY31 fescue.

There is no KY31 fescue in Florence,Darlington, or Lee county,.......none.

Also no quail left either.

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[Tater]

There is no KY31 fescue in Florence,Darlington, or Lee county,.......none.

Also no quail left either.

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I doubt the validity of that statement, but will ease your pain by rewording my response to “non-native grasses”.

[darealdeal]

I doubt the validity of that statement, but will ease your pain by rewording my response to “non-native grasses”.

Native grass seed is expensive

[Tater]

There’s no birds to populate that acreage. Survival rate of released birds is marginal at best.

[swampknob]

They have wild coveys, just not in huntable populations.

[Tater]

They have wild coveys, just not in huntable populations.

If they have that kind of acreage under management I’m sure there’s nothing I can say they don’t already know. I applaud their efforts and hope they get to see a return on their efforts.

[nitro5x6's]

Kill any and all raptors ( and feral cats) on said properties and watch your quail numbers increase.

[BOGSTER]

And I’ll be the first to admit I don’t a thing about wild quail.

But what I have noticed since moving to Clarendon County, is that all property directly on or close by the River Road hold wild quail.
I’ve asked the question to several of the landowners over here and the number one response I get is “farming practices.”

They leave their corners, hedge rows, etc.

You drive down Panola Rd, Lily Martin, River Road, Les Tindal, or damn near any other cut thru in that area and shut your truck off in the last hour of the day, and you’ll hear bobwhites in every direction, any day of the week.

[Rubberhead*]

I really think the lack of any common ground is because everybody is afraid they're going to lose something. Biff doesn't want to give up his corn pond. Bubba doesn't want to give up his mud motor. Once everybody's "concerns" are taken into consideration then there's nothing left on the table. Close?

[FEETDOWN]

I really think the lack of any common ground is because everybody is afraid they're going to lose something. Biff doesn't want to give up his corn pond. Bubba doesn't want to give up his mud motor. Once everybody's "concerns" are taken into consideration then there's nothing left on the table. Close?

Probably the best post on the thread

[JABIII]

I really think the lack of any common ground is because everybody is afraid they're going to lose something. Biff doesn't want to give up his corn pond. Bubba doesn't want to give up his mud motor. Once everybody's "concerns" are taken into consideration then there's nothing left on the table. Close?

Absolutely. Want to know what is sadder? Consider that IF you were able to bust through it all, identify a problem, and a solution, you will see those who REALLY don't want to "lose something". Be it the chemical industry or the billion dollar conservation dollar beast...

[BOGSTER]

Not only on the head, but managed to drive it all the way in the 2x4 with one whack.

Well said.