Pump and pump motor ?

[Catdaddy]

Anybody got an idea what is broken here?

It's a 10 hp berkley electric single phase pump.

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[Palmetto Bug]

My guess is that the impeller is in pieces.

[centurian]

Debris in the pump, Maybe part of a valve or piping component. Could also be motor bearing as it looks like the motor has been overheating for a while by the paint burnt off the casing.

[darealdeal]

Impeller, impeller seal, bearings. If you are going to try and replace I would replace the capacitor while you got it apart. When replacing the seal on the impeller make sure to wear gloves and put just a small amount of lube on the seal. Something like magic lube or along those lines.

[JABIII]

That could just be a rock you know, but if you have to take it apart anyway, tighten it up. Hang on to that unit...

[Chuck the Duck Slayer]

Sounds like the impeller imploded

[Bad Habit]

We pick up rocks and oyster shells often in our trash pumps- sometimes it will sound like that- we usually take apart the impeller housing, clean it out and it will be good to go.

Is it still pumping water? It sounded like it was running dry.
Did you hear it start making that noise and shut it down?

[Briar]

How is the motor coupled to the pump

[Catdaddy]

How is the motor coupled to the pump

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[Chuck the Duck Slayer]

You can disconnect the pump from the motor and turn the motor on to see if it's the motor. While it's apart you can spin the pump free hand to help isolate the noise.


Here is a parts diagram for when you get it figured out
https://www.pumpcatalog.com/repair-p...rkeley/b76780/

[Catdaddy]

You can disconnect the pump from the motor and turn the motor on to see if it's the motor. While it's apart you can spin the pump free hand to help isolate the noise.


Here is a parts diagram for when you get it figured out
https://www.pumpcatalog.com/repair-p...rkeley/b76780/

Thanks, I need all the help I can get. I'm going to wait for warmer weather to tackle it.

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[b-stick]

Catdaddy where are you located?

I may be able to swing by one weekend or one afternoon and check it out.

[FLS]

8 bolts hold the pump to the volute. Take those loose and you can pull the pump awat from the volute housing. You’ll need something to drive in between the pump and volute to separate them. A chisel or flat blade screwdriver will work. There may or may not be 4 bolts holding the pump to whatever you have it mounted to If so you’ll have to take those loose to slide the motor back. Yours has a paper gasket. You’ll need a replacement. When you get it apart, There is a bolt and big washer that hold it on. Make they’re there and haven’t come loose or sheared off. If they have check the impeller. If it wobbles on the shaft or is broken it will have to be replaced. If the bolt is sheared it will have to be removed. If it’s just come out and hasn’t damaged the shaft or impeller put it back in and tighten the shit out of it if it’s still there. That might be what you are hearing rattle around when it’s running. Scrape the old gasket off, put a new one on and bolt her back up. If anything is broken, and you don’t want to tackle it yourself, Riverside Electric in Olanta, or Lake City Electric will fix you up.
If the pump isn’t leaking water around the shaft while it’s running / pumping, the mechanical seal is fine. If it’s not tripping the circuit breaker or overloads on your starter the internal switch and capacitor are fine. Bearing will growl or squeal if they’re bad. It’s probably just debris sucked up into the pump.

[Catdaddy]

Thanks, the motor sounds fine to me and it's not throwing the breaker. I think something has broken around the impeller.

B-stick, it's an hour north of Florence. It's probably a little far for you. Thanks.

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[b-stick]

Thanks, the motor sounds fine to me and it's not throwing the breaker. I think something has broken around the impeller.

B-stick, it's an hour north of Florence. It's probably a little far for you. Thanks.

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Yes sir a little far.

Do everything FLS said. Be careful with the casing gasket so you can get a new one made.

If you have to remove the mech seal, take measurements of where the face is located when the seal is set. Also once you pull the pump out of the volute, the impeller needs to come off, makes sure you get a new impeller gasket. You will need to measure the clearance between the back of the impeller and the face of the backing plate. It looks like it is a fixed measurement but I can’t really see any bearings to adjust. It is easier than it seems.

[JABIII]

Get a wire brush and tube of RTV sealant along with the gaskets...

[FLS]

You don’t need to measure the seal or gasket. All you need is the BM number off the pump data plate. Any decent motor shop will be able to get your parts with that. The two I listed will fix you right up. Electro Mechanical in Florence can do it too. I’d only use RTV as a last resort. It makes it a big pain in the ass to get apart next time and if you don’t get your mating surfaces really clean and dry it will leak. That $15 gasket is the smart and easy way to go.

[DRDUCK]

Get a wire brush and tube of RTV sealant along with the gaskets...

Yep/

[DRDUCK]

I got a above ground pump for my well and old as you. Had a rock in it. Bronze impeller in that unit and I will bet YOU it did NOT bust the impeller. Why I use Square-D breakers. Good luck but repair that unit.

[b-stick]

You don’t need to measure the seal or gasket. All you need is the BM number off the pump data plate. Any decent motor shop will be able to get your parts with that. The two I listed will fix you right up. Electro Mechanical in Florence can do it too. I’d only use RTV as a last resort. It makes it a big pain in the ass to get apart next time and if you don’t get your mating surfaces really clean and dry it will leak. That $15 gasket is the smart and easy way to go.

Unless the seal is bolted and doesn’t move, it needs to be measured. That’s only if he has to remove the mech seal.

How do you figure you don’t need to measure the gasket or save the gasket so a new one can get cut?