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    Quote Originally Posted by huntinghagen#12 View Post
    Can’t decide if I’m going to wait for an official announcement, or go ahead and buy my plane tickets for my scheduled September elk hunt in Alberta.
    Debating the same thing, but there isn't much open at the moment.
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    I'll shoot over a kids head in a blind or long gun one on a turkey in a heart beat. You want to kill stuff around me you gonna earn it.

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    I'm in the same boat, as I'm sure a lot of people are.
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    Should be an interesting year with how dry it is up there. Crops are shit in the area we hunt. All ditches and potholes are dry. Farmers won’t be turning their fields over trying to save moisture.

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    Hearing the same, though it never turns out to be what you expect. Less area for them to be in, and the area we hunt starts where NoDak leaves off and ends at the Arctic ocean.

    Big question remaining will be is it a truly open border or open with a quarantine...

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    Me when I see they pulled off exactly what was predicted, verbatim.

    We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty....We will not be driven by fear into an age of unreason, .....we are not descended from fearful men – not from men who feared to write, to speak, to associate, and to defend causes that were, for the moment, unpopular.
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    US extends Covid-19 travel restrictions with Canada and Mexico through August 21

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    By Priscilla Alvarez, CNN

    (CNN)The Biden administration is extending non-essential travel restrictions for the US northern and southern borders until August 21.

    The US has been limiting non-essential travel along both borders since the start of the pandemic and extending those restrictions on a monthly basis. The restrictions don't apply to cross-border trade, US citizens and lawful permanent residents, as well as people traveling for medical purposes or to attend school, among others.

    But over recent weeks, the administration has come under fire for continuing to keep restrictions in place, more than a year into the pandemic, and after Canada announced it was reopening to vaccinated Americans.

    In notices to be posted in the Federal Register, Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas notes that there have been "positive developments in recent weeks," citing the millions of vaccines doses administered in the United States and the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention moving Canada and Mexico to Covid-19 Level 4 (Very High) to Level 3 (High) "in recognition of conditions that, while still requiring significant safeguards, are improving."

    Still, DHS found that the outbreak and continued transmission and spread of Covid-19 both in the US and globally posed a risk.
    A DHS spokesperson cited concerns over the dangerous Delta variant and said the agency is in "constant contact with Canadian and Mexican counterparts to identify the conditions under which restrictions may be eased safely and sustainably."

    The restrictions go into effect Thursday and remain in effect until August 21, "unless amended or rescinded prior to that time."

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/21/polit...vel/index.html

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    Now they gonna allow virtual learning again in 20 county's I think I heard. God Bless the Children.
    Gettin old is for pussies! AND MY NEW TRUE people say like Capt. Tom >>>>>>>>>/
    "Wow, often imitated but never duplicated. No one can do it like the master. My hat is off to you DRDUCK!"

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    Canada is easing travel restrictions for vaccinated Americans. Here are 10 things to know before a trip

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    Canada is set to open its borders to fully vaccinated U.S. travelers next month, but travelers will notice a few differences compared to their pre-pandemic trips.

    From COVID testing and vaccination requirements to lodging prices, a number of things have changed up north since nonessential border travel between the two countries was first shut down in March 2020. Since then, only essential trade and travel have been permitted.

    Fully vaccinated U.S. citizens and permanent residents will be permitted to enter Canada for nonessential travel starting Aug. 9 at 12:01 a.m. EDT, even as the U.S. continues to enforce strict travel restrictions at its land borders.

    Here are 10 things to know before a trip to Canada.

    Canada is set to open its borders to fully vaccinated U.S. travelers on Aug. 9, but travelers will notice a few differences compared to their pre-pandemic trips.

    US borders:US extends Mexico, Canada border restrictions through Aug. 21

    Canada border crossing requirements: Travelers will need to be fully vaccinated
    American travelers wanting to visit Canada by land, air or water must complete a COVID-19 vaccinationat least 14 days prior to entry. The government of Canada accepts the Pfizer-BioNtech, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson and AstraZeneca/COVISHIELD vaccines.

    Cruises are not yet permitted to enter Canadian waters, but the country's ban on cruise ships with more than 100 passengers is set to end Nov. 1.

    Everyone needs to get a negative COVID test
    All travelers, regardless of COVID vaccination status, will need to show proof of a COVID-19 molecular test– such as a PCR test – to enter. Fully vaccinated travelers will not need to take a post-arrival test unless they are randomly selected to do so.

    Bring COVID vaccine card, documentation
    Travelers must show proof of COVID vaccination in either English, French or with a certified translation.

    Airlines will be verifying passengers’ vaccination status through the ArriveCAN app or website before passengers board their flights. Those driving across the border must also use ArriveCAN before departing. Information must be submitted within 72 hours before arrival.

    Travelers are also advised to carry their vaccine documentation to show officials at border entry points and should keep their test results and a list of close contacts and locations visited on hand.

    Canada border reopens:Canada border opens to vaccinated US citizens Aug. 9: Everything you need to know

    Check for any COVID symptoms, and be prepared to quarantine
    Fully vaccinated travelers won't need to quarantine upon arrival, but visitors with COVID symptoms will need to self-isolate. All visitors must provide a quarantine plan.

    All visitors trying to enter Canada must provide a quarantine plan and be prepared to quarantine.

    Children, others who are exempted can enter Canada

    Children under the age of 12 and unvaccinated dependent children will be allowed to enter the country with a fully vaccinated parent, step-parent, tutor or guardian who is eligible to enter Canada.

    People with health conditions that prevent them from becoming fully vaccinated can also qualify for eased quarantine and testing requirements but must follow a modified quarantine. More details will be announced in the coming days, according to the Canadian government.

    You may run into other COVID travel restrictions
    Travelers will be required to follow a number of public health measures, including monitoring for signs of COVID-19 and keeping a copy of COVID vaccine documentation and test results 14 days after entry.

    Canada's government suggests mask wearing in shared spaces, and certain provinces – including Quebec and Ontario – still enforce mask mandates.

    Travelers entering by air will need to wear a mask in Canadian airports and on flights to and from the country, regardless of vaccination status.

    Some provinces still impose other various COVID restrictions, too. Newfoundland and Labrador, for instance, require a travel form to enter. Ontario has capacity limits on organized public events, retail spaces, museums, casinos, theaters and more.

    The country's national parks are open and welcoming visitors, but access to visitor facilities and services may be limited.

    Mask rules, open venues and more:What you need to know about summer travel in Europe

    Airlines are adding more flights to Canada

    Airlines are adding more flights to Canada to accommodate the anticipated uptick of air travel demand.

    Air Canada announced a summer transborder schedule with up to 220 daily flights between the U.S. and Canada as of Aug. 9. The initial schedule will include 55 routes and 34 U.S. destinations, but the airline plans to restore service to all 57 U.S. destinations previously served “as conditions allow,” according to the airline.

    United, which flies to Calgary, Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver, said Monday it would add additional flights to Toronto and Vancouver in September.

    American Airlines services four airports in Canada – Calgary, Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver – and is set to resume operations in Halifax, Quebec and Ottawa in the spring of 2022, according to a June statement.

    Pricing from flight search tool Skyscanner on Wednesday showed airfares for August trips from the U.S. to Canada are starting at $251 for Vancouver, $266 for Toronto and $300 for Calgary.

    Effective Aug. 9, international flights carrying passengers will be permitted to land at nine Canadian airports:

    Montréal-Trudeau International Airport
    Toronto Pearson International Airport
    Calgary International Airport
    Vancouver International Airport.
    Halifax Stanfield International Airport
    Québec City Jean Lesage International Airport
    Ottawa Macdonald–Cartier International Airport
    Winnipeg James Armstrong Richardson International Airport
    Edmonton International Airport

    Air Canada announced a summer transborder schedule with up to 220 daily flights between the U.S. and Canada as of Aug. 9.
    Or there's Hawaii:4 tips to make the most of your Maui vacation as more travelers head to Hawaii

    Canada hotel room rates are low – but prices are rising
    In May, the average daily room rate — or ADR — across Canada's hotels was $113.40 in Canadian dollars(US$90.27), down 32% compared to 2019, according to hotel analytics company STR.

    Hotel room prices should rebound when border restrictions ease; STR expects ADR to hit $116.22between July and September, according to a June statement. The firm expects smaller cities and resorts to lead the recovery.

    “International demand plays an incredibly important role in the recovery process, and we expect a jump in hotel leisure and corporate demand once the U.S./Canada land border reopens,”the press release read.

    The majority of eligible Canadians are vaccinated against COVID-19
    Canada's COVID vaccine rollout had a slower start, but the country has since surpassed the U.S.'s vaccination rates.

    Nearly 70% of the Canadian population was at least partially vaccinated and nearly 44% fully vaccinated as of July 10. In the U.S., 56% of the population was partially vaccinated and 49% was fully vaccinated as of Tuesday.

    Canada reported 712 confirmed new COVID cases in the last 24 hours as of Wednesday, according to the World Health Organization, a fraction of the 34,678 new cases reported in the U.S.

    US extends Canada border closure

    The U.S. extended border restrictions on nonessential travel Wednesday, keeping its borders with Canada and Mexico closed through at least Aug. 21. The restrictions to entry affect both land and ferry travel.

    The move is meant to help the country decrease the spread of COVID-19, including the highly contagious delta variant.

    International travelers who plan to return to the U.S. by air will need to get tested no more than 3 days before travel and show a negative test result or documentation of recovery to the airline before boarding, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/trave...da/8035696002/

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    I feel like I should receive some sort of a class credit if I read that entire article

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    I didn’t read the entire second article.

    US is extended until 8/21, Canada says they’re opening on August 9th. Does that mean I can go to Canada on August 10th, or will the US turn people around?

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    It is long, but anyone planning to go needs to know the changes that they are making to border crossings and flights...

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    I just read it. Probably going to see if I can push to 2022. This seems like a cluster that could fall apart at any minute.

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    Yeah what a shit show.
    Which is synonymous with Canadian govt.

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    F'm all. I'm fine ri'cheer

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    too bad you cant get to canada thru mexico
    Ugh. Stupid people piss me off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huntinghagen#12 View Post
    I didn’t read the entire second article.

    US is extended until 8/21, Canada says they’re opening on August 9th. Does that mean I can go to Canada on August 10th, or will the US turn people around?
    Just land borders, same thing as if you have been to mexico recently, except you need your vax papers comrad.

    I'm going. On that note, I may need to put a lists together of "coyotes" or sketchy bush pilots in the yukon and alaska, because if they close it down while I'm hunting, my ass is finding a way out.
    Last edited by buckpro; 07-22-2021 at 07:22 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn View Post
    I'll shoot over a kids head in a blind or long gun one on a turkey in a heart beat. You want to kill stuff around me you gonna earn it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sportin' Woodies View Post
    Yeah what a shit show.
    Which is synonymous with govt.
    FIFY
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars Bluff View Post
    Only thing we need to be wearing in this country are ass whippings & condoms. That'll clear up half our issues.

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    Some booshit...

    Canada-U.S. border reopening threatened by 'dramatic' disruption after strike vote
    Unions representing thousands of staffers with the Canada Border Services Agency have voted “overwhelmingly” in favor of strike actions.

    Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau speaks during a press conference after the summit of the leaders of the Group of Seven industrialized nations in Shima, central Japan, Friday, May 27, 2016. G-7 leaders wrapped up their annual summit Friday claiming a "special responsibility" for leading international efforts to cope with challenges.


    Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau speaks during a press conference on May 27, 2016. | (Koji Ueda/AP Photo)

    By ANDY BLATCHFORD

    07/27/2021 04:59 PM EDT

    OTTAWA — An intensifying labor dispute is threatening to snarl Justin Trudeau’s plans to reopen the Canadian border to vaccinated Americans.

    Unions representing 8,500 staffers with the Canada Border Services Agency have voted “overwhelmingly” in favor of strike actions that could begin as soon as next week, their leaders announced Tuesday.


    “They’re clearly fed up with the disrespect they're being shown by the CBSA and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s government — and they're ready to do what it takes to get a fair contract,” Chris Aylward, national president of the Public Service Alliance of Canada, told a press conference. “If we're forced to call a strike because of the government's inaction, CBSA employees could potentially take strike action as early as Aug. 6.”

    Risk of border slowdown: The timing of the potential strike could complicate Canada’s reopening plan before it’s due to get going three days later.

    The Trudeau government announced last week that Canada will begin allowing fully vaccinated Americans to enter the country for discretionary travel on Aug. 9.

    Aylward said border officers working to rule, for example, could create “dramatic disruptions” to the flow of goods, services and people entering Canada.

    “It could very well jeopardize Canada's plan to reopen the Canada-U.S. border to fully vaccinated Americans travelers,” said Aylward, who was joined by Customs and Immigration Union national president Mark Weber.


    Weber said the unions have yet to sketch a specific plan or strategy for the strike actions because they think there’s still time to get back to the bargaining table.

    The labor standoff: Talks between the unions, the border agency and the Treasury Board of Canada dragged on for three years before they hit a stalemate last December.

    Weber said that data from the government's own public service employee survey have long shown CBSA at the bottom when it comes to employee satisfaction.

    “It’s also at the top for issues related to harassment, workplace violence and management intimidation,” Weber said. “These results aren’t surprising to me at all. Our members love the work they do, but they’re grappling with a toxic workplace at the CBSA that really needs to be overhauled.”

    Weber said CBSA staffers are also seeking parity with other law enforcement agencies. The government offered border officers less than what it gave to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, he added.


    The government’s take: Later Tuesday, Trudeau was asked about the possible strike and whether it might influence his plans to ease border measures for vaccinated Americans.

    He said that border guards faced challenges such as reduced staffing during the pandemic combined with an increase in responsibility.

    "We're going to work with them and we're hopeful there won't be any disruptions," Trudeau told reporters.

    A spokesperson for Treasury Board President Jean-Yves Duclos reiterated Tuesday the government’s position that it’s disappointed PSAC rejected a “fair offer.” The government says the offer included wage adjustments and provisions in line with deals reached with representatives of more than 88 percent of federal public servants.

    “Our goal is to take constructive steps to advance negotiations and we remain open to returning to the bargaining table at any time,” the statement said.

    Border strike would ‘cripple’ supply chains: Dennis Darby, president of the Canadian Manufacturers & Exporters, said Tuesday that the economy can’t afford another trade disruption. He called on all parties to return to the table.


    “Any disruption will have significant impacts on our economic recovery and on the flow of essential goods into Canada,” Darby said in a statement. “This situation will cripple manufacturers’ ability to get the essential components and goods to sustain global supply chains, and threatens thousands of Canadian businesses.”

    State of the border: Taking a more conservative approach, the Biden administration has renewed restrictions at the U.S.-Canada land crossings until at least Aug. 21.

    Business leaders, families and lawmakers in districts along the U.S. northern border have been pressing Trudeau and President Joe Biden for months to reopen the shared land crossings to nonessential travel. Following Canada’s announcement last week, the focus and the pressure has been directed at Biden to produce a reopening plan.

    On Monday, the White House said the U.S. will maintain its current travel restrictions, citing the Delta variant and the rise in cases driven by the highly infectious form of Covid-19.


    White House press secretary Jen Psaki said the restrictions are likely to stay in place during the weeks ahead. But Psaki also noted that “nothing is indefinite.”

    More from the prime minister: Trudeau was also asked Tuesday if he jumped the gun with his plan to loosen border controls for U.S. travelers starting Aug. 9, given the rise of Delta cases among Americans.

    “The health data is fairly clear that allowing for travel of fully vaccinated individuals is low risk,” Trudeau told reporters in Moncton, N.B. “It’s not zero risk, but it is low risk.”

    Trudeau added he’s confident it’s the right step because cases remain low in Canada, which plans to welcome fully vaccinated travelers from other countries starting Sept. 7.

    The government will move forward gradually and monitor the situation very carefully to avoid going backwards, he said.

    What’s next: The unions say the government can avoid strike actions by returning to the table with a fair plan.

    “Even though we received the strong strike vote mandate from members, a strike is not inevitable — yet,” Weber said.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...-strike-501004

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    Strike? I mean the border has been closed for a damn year. What are they bitching about, they have been getting paid for doing fuckall, eh?

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