Legislators kickback time.

[Palmetto Duck]

What the hell is Myrtle and N Myrtle Ocean outfall for 5 hundy each?

[Bigtimber2]

All students can receive in state tuition.

The pork is based on the population divided by county but is also for rural towns? Rural town have smaller populations. Fixing roads and improving education will do more than $1 million to aid a civic center.

Don't the poorest counties per capita vote blue? Minus Charleston

The best to help wage earners is let them keep more of their hard earned money.

[Bownut]

Should not that be a cost for Florence County residents not wage earners across the state?

Whorry folk should be paying for all dem damn roads too .........

[ADP]

Pouring $1,000,000 into the Florence Civic Center for tourism while your roads leading to the property are the worst in the country. Thats smart.

[BigBrother]

"A "kickback" is a term used to refer to a misappropriation of funds that enriches a person of power or influence who uses the power or influence to make a different individual, organization, or company richer. Often, kickbacks result from a corrupt bidding scheme. ... Some also consider kickbacks to be a type of bribery."

I believe the term for this spending is pork not kickback. The person requesting the expenditure is listed for all to see. The expenditures for projects will be more closely monitored. When you view the locations it appears they are spread all over the state. At least they are transparent this year. We fought hard for that.

With this criteria see below:

The 350,000 for stumps is a pilot project to see if it is financially feasible to improve safe navigation on Lake Marion.

Safe navigation? What's so unsafe about knowing not to run 80 mph in any direction you want and to stay in the river channels or if you are uncomfortable in not running that lake due to the stumps then keep your candy ass on Morris Island...

...unless of course you are a developer with interests in expanding demand to those candy asses by removing stumpage so they can zip along in any direction they want without hurting their lower units. I am sick and tired of my money being appropriated in the name of "safety" to pad someone else's pockets. Again, when did safety on Lake Marion become your constituents concern? If I could choose where my money would improve safety, how about fixing some damned potholes. I guaran-damned-tee you that more people will be safe by improving roads than they will by pulling stumps.

The 153,000 provides for bulletproof vests and protective gear for Florence County Sheriff Dept in response to the mass shooting of officers.

IMO a justifiable expenditure and why your citizens elect you.

The 1,000,000 is for a small percentage of renovation of the Civic Center. It is an investment in tourism.

Pork, but again under your wheel house as a representative from Florence county.

[Catdaddy]

I must have missed the part where the state made you buy a $80k glitter boat and forces you to go fishing.

That's because they didn't.

It probably comes under keeping navigable waters open.


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[jevans]

I don’t get the stump pulling out of Lake Marion either. That’s part of Santee’s nostalgia as far as I’m concerned. If you’re scared to get in a boat and run around Santee then there are plenty of other places you can go. We’re spending 23 million to preserve the history/nostalgia of one property in Charleston then other the other hand spending 350k to see if it’s feasible to try to strip another place of its history/nostalgia.

Other than gained value in property for the owners down there, I feel like this is one thing they will regret over time

[willyworm]

What the hell is Sumter Opera House gonna do with $5M?

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[Bownut]

What the hell is Sumter Opera House gonna do with $5M?

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Make it disappear.

[willyworm]

Haha, I don't think that's on their agenda.

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[Glenn]

That's because they didn't.

It probably comes under keeping navigable waters open.


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You barging cotton down the Ol' Mississip', Huck or just huckin' (get it?) $20 lures to a fish you aren't going to eat anyway?

Navigable waters.

You're a hoot. You should open for Rogan on his next tour.

[Kioti]

My pork is:

The 350,000 for stumps is a pilot project to see if it is financially feasible to improve safe navigation on Lake Marion.

Is this some kind of effing joke? After that stupid ass stump clearing thread of yours where you flat out admit you wanted the lake cleared to increase you and your buddies' property values and to make it your personal playground. Overwhelmingly, people were against it and although I know they aren't all from your district, you completely ignore the will of the people to satisfy your own desires. Just like you were overwhelmingly 'voted off the island' but won't stay away.

[Kioti]

$250,000 for "Myrtle Beach Safety Barriers". I'd rather spend $250,000 to dig a mote around Myrtle Beach....

It's already got one.

[Duck Tape]

Y'all have fun. I'm catching Keys disease for a while without my Tier 1.

[2thDoc]

FWIW, i want all the property nearest to me to be very highly valued....

[M.R.Ducks]

FWIW, i want all the property nearest to me to be very highly valued....

You should run for office

[BOGSTER]

I’ll refrain from commenting on the things I don’t know about, and stick to those I do.

On Lake Marion’s stump removal, there’s some laughable idiocy being tossed around by folks.

The Dead Forest was an incredible place destined to collapse in time.
I’d bet 1/10 of the timber that stood there 20 years ago, remains today.
Wind, waves, and natural deterioration of the standing trees has turned it into one of the most (if not the most) hazardous stump fields east of the Mississippi.

Don’t try to tell me you run stumpier areas on a regular basis, because you don’t.
Don’t try to tell me you just have to know where to run, because that’s ridiculous.

Trees break off at the surface out there every single time the wind kicks up, creating new stumps just below the surface.

The water depth there ranges from 15-38ft deep depending on where you are.
The tree removal as I understand it would lower the waters of Marion about 10ft, and contractors would cut the exposed timber at the new temporary water line.
When the water level returns to mean, those hazardous stumps would now be 10ft below the surface, still leave more than enough vertical structure to hold all the fish we can imagine.

Essentially adding 15k + acres of unusable recreational water to Marion.

Now, on the to the related topic of development.

Where specifically will be developed? 78ish% of Marion’s shoreline capable of residential development is already in place.

6 residential developments have been attempted on Marion since 1996.
All of which have failed miserably.
Where will this new one be, and why will it be successful?

What new business and tourism model will out compete Charleston County and draw people from community developments with private docks and deep water lots to Marion’s cypress knee, moccasin, alligator, and mosquitoe infested shoreline?

What infrastructure and amenities will draw middle class families to Rocks Pond or Potato Creek?

Show me. Sell me.

I’d love to see it laid out on paper.

[BigBrother]

Yikes. That's scary. I'd stay away...or in the river channel. Speaking of...every chartplotter I've ever owned has the river channel pretty clearly outlined. Last time I was on Marion...I seem to remember marker buoys too.

Stumps suck. I try and avoid them. Most people do and that's why most of lake Marion doesnt look like lake Murray, (number of boats and developments not the mudhole thing).

It would be great to be able to zip around unencumbered where ever you want. You're going to end up replacing stumpage for wakeboard boats. I'm pretty familiar with seeing places I used to hunt covered up with development.

Development: If I were to place a wager it would be that the first big lick will be in Wyboo.

The stumps are Santee Cooper's problem. Santee Cooper, or Bassmaster, or anyone else with a vested interest in seeing the lake more navigable can work out the funds. Heck, if they were resourceful they might could make money by selling permits to timber all that $ubmerged timber to those cats on that barge that are...wait for it...already selling them for fancy old growth mantle piece$, hardwood floor$, and kitchen table$ already.

I'd prefer to see the state's money spent on lawsuits to get those assholes with those five lakes along the Yadkin river valley to follow some sort of "there's folks downstream" policy on water releases. That's something that impacts a whole lot more than insurable lower units.

[willyworm]

Preach

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[TheVisorGuy]

Yikes. That's scary. I'd stay away...or in the river channel. Speaking of...every chartplotter I've ever owned has the river channel pretty clearly outlined. Last time I was on Marion...I seem to remember marker buoys too.

Stumps suck. I try and avoid them. Most people do and that's why most of lake Marion doesnt look like lake Murray, (number of boats and developments not the mudhole thing).

It would be great to be able to zip around unencumbered where ever you want. You're going to end up replacing stumpage for wakeboard boats. I'm pretty familiar with seeing places I used to hunt covered up with development.

Development: If I were to place a wager it would be that the first big lick will be in Wyboo.

The stumps are Santee Cooper's problem. Santee Cooper, or Bassmaster, or anyone else with a vested interest in seeing the lake more navigable can work out the funds. Heck, if they were resourceful they might could make money by selling permits to timber all that $ubmerged timber to those cats on that barge that are...wait for it...already selling them for fancy old growth mantle piece$, hardwood floor$, and kitchen table$ already.

I'd prefer to see the state's money spent on lawsuits to get those assholes with those five lakes along the Yadkin river valley to follow some sort of "there's folks downstream" policy on water releases. That's something that impacts a whole lot more than insurable lower units.

Well put

And pave a road or two for gods sake