Which QB will have most success in NFL

[Jozie & Me]

check again. Rodgers was a first round pick.

back that other statement up with data.

Matt Leinart, Sanchez, Heath Shuler, Ryan leaf, Tim couch, Akili smith, Cade mcnown, Joey Harrington, Patrick Ramsey, jp Losman, Vince young, Jamarcus Russell, Brady Quinn, Tim Tebow, EJ Manuel, Blake Bortles, Jonny Manzel, Jamie’s Winston,

[Bigtimber2]

check again. Rodgers was a first round pick.

back that other statement up with data.

Nope. He was a 23rd pick. Alex Smith was first. As for other an easy search will show you.

https://www.insider.com/2005-nfl-dra...rodgers-2021-1

[LowcountryBuck]

Nope. He was a 24th or 25th pick. Alex Smith was first. As for other an easy search will show you.

https://www.insider.com/2005-nfl-dra...rodgers-2021-1

Reading comprehension... he was a FIRST ROUND pick. I didn't say first overall. That has never been the topic of this thread. It was about First round picks vs lower round picks and who would perform the best.

[w33kender]

There are as many so-so 1st picks as great QBs.

Just look at the legendary '83 draft. Marino, Elway, Kelly are HOF'ers. Then there's Blackledge, Eason, O'Brien. All first rounders.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...1983/draft.htm

[Bigtimber2]

Okay then Alex Smith cancels out Rodgers.

Everyone uses a different metrics but the past decades have produced a boat load of Super Bowl Champions.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...he-last-decade

[LowcountryBuck]

Okay then Alex Smith cancels out Rodgers.

Everyone uses a different metrics but the past decades have produced a boat load of Super Bowl Champions.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...he-last-decade

The point Im making is if you take 10 qbs drafted in the first round, and 10 that were drafted in later rounds, the percentage of picks in the first round that have significant success, from a quantity standpoint will always be higher. Sure there are busts, but all in all those guys taken in the first round work out at a much higher percentage than those in the later rounds. For every one Tom Brady, you have 50 Brian Hoyer or Jake Lutons.

[Bigtimber2]

Just look at the legendary '83 draft. Marino, Elway, Kelly are HOF'ers. Then there's Blackledge, Eason, O'Brien. All first rounders.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...1983/draft.htm

Brady
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Staubach

[TheVisorGuy]

Manning

[Mars Bluff]

The reason the later drafted QB's, RB's etc tend to do better is because they get picked by better teams with better O'lines. The first picks go to the shittiest teams. A good O'line will make a shitty QB or RB look great. A shitty O'line will make a great QB, RB look shitty too.

[w33kender]

The point Im making is if you take 10 qbs drafted in the first round, and 10 that were drafted in later rounds, the percentage of picks in the first round that have significant success, from a quantity standpoint will always be higher. .

The first rounder is always going to get more snaps in practice than someone drafted lower, though. A minor point but it should be factored in. Careers of those in personnel positions are counting on his success.

[Remy]

The reason the later drafted QB's, RB's etc tend to do better is because they get picked by better teams with better O'lines. The first picks go to the shittiest teams. A good O'line will make a shitty QB or RB look great. A shitty O'line will make a great QB, RB look shitty too.

Underrated aspect of team sports. I don't give a crap how good you are, if your team sucks your success is going to suffer a great deal.

[tprice]

The reason the later drafted QB's, RB's etc tend to do better is because they get picked by better teams with better O'lines. The first picks go to the shittiest teams. A good O'line will make a shitty QB or RB look great. A shitty O'line will make a great QB, RB look shitty too.

Can not argue that point at all

[coot nasty]

I think Trevor will do just fine. With the ability to read defensive plays will help him tremendously. Now who knows if the jags can stop anyone. There is a reason he was projected 1st pick in the draft out of high school.

[BullJakeGrappler]

They will all do well. They have gotten paid.

Now, what's all this nonsense about O lines, receivers, and better teams. There's a cap that will vary yoy dependent upon the general. Watch what happens in NE> Jacksonville. Belli may give Urban that stroke he's been faking. Keep in mind, there always has and will always be that talent gap based on desire to spend to win. The Houston story- Patriots - the Tampa , Seattle, and KC of the past and present.

It's all about the money.

[Tater]

Matt Leinart, Sanchez, Heath Shuler, Ryan leaf, Tim couch, Akili smith, Cade mcnown, Joey Harrington, Patrick Ramsey, jp Losman, Vince young, Jamarcus Russell, Brady Quinn, Tim Tebow, EJ Manuel, Blake Bortles, Jonny Manzel, Jamie’s Winston,

:crickets:

[Red Huck]

Kyle Trask

[ecu1984]

Jake Bentley

[tprice]

Jake Bentley

Honestly I always thought he would be a good one but guess I was wrong


As for the others I still think Jones is in the right situation

Honestly hate to be in TL shoes, the whole world expects him to turn that entire organization around. Tough job , not sure Brady could help them but he did make a difference this year in Tampa Bay

[Tater]

And he’s getting paid for those expectations.