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    South African variant may evade protection from Pfizer vaccine, Israeli study says

    By Maayan Lubell

    JERUSALEM (Reuters) -The coronavirus variant discovered in South Africa may evade the protection provided by Pfizer/BioNTech’s COVID-19 vaccine to some extent, a real-world data study in Israel found, though its prevalence in the country is very low and the research has not been peer reviewed.

    The study, released on Saturday, compared almost 400 people who had tested positive for COVID-19, 14 days or more after they received one or two doses of the vaccine, against the same number of unvaccinated patients with the disease.

    It matched age and gender, among other characteristics.

    The South African variant, B.1.351, was found to make up about 1% of all the COVID-19 cases across all the people studied, according to the study by Tel Aviv University and Israel’s largest healthcare provider, Clalit.

    But among patients who had received two doses of the vaccine, the variant’s prevalence rate was eight times higher than those unvaccinated - 5.4% versus 0.7%.

    This suggests the vaccine is less effective against the South African variant, compared with the original coronavirus and a variant first identified in Britain that has come to comprise nearly all COVID-19 cases in Israel, the researchers said.

    “We found a disproportionately higher rate of the South African variant among people vaccinated with a second dose, compared to the unvaccinated group. This means that the South African variant is able, to some extent, to break through the vaccine’s protection,” said Tel Aviv University’s Adi Stern.

    The researchers cautioned, though, that the study only had a small sample size of people infected with the South African variant because of its rarity in Israel.

    They also said the research was not intended to deduce overall vaccine effectiveness against any variant, since it only looked at people who had already tested positive for COVID-19, not at overall infection rates.

    Pfizer declined to comment on the Israeli study.

    Pfizer and BioNTech said on April 1 that their vaccine was around 91% effective at preventing COVID-19, citing updated trial data that included participants inoculated for up to six months.

    Training nurse Sari Roos prepares a dose of Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine against coronavirus disease (COVID-19) to teach her air bubble technique in Laakso hospital in Helsinki, Finland March 11, 2021. Picture taken March 11, 2021. REUTERS/Essi Lehto
    They have been testing a third dose of their shot as a booster, and have said they could modify the shot to specifically address new variants if needed.

    In respect to the South African variant, they said that among a group of 800 study volunteers in South Africa, where B.1.351 is widespread, there were nine cases of COVID-19, all of which occurred among participants who got the placebo. Of those nine cases, six were among individuals infected with the South African variant.

    Some previous studies have indicated that the Pfizer/BioNTech shot was less potent against the B.1.351 variant than against other variants of the coronavirus, but still offered a robust defence.

    While the results of the study may cause concern, the low prevalence of the South African strain was encouraging, according to Tel Aviv University’s Stern.

    “Even if the South African variant does break through the vaccine’s protection, it has not spread widely through the population,” said Stern, adding that the British variant may be “blocking” the spread of the South African strain.

    Almost 53% of Israel’s 9.3 million population has received both Pfizer doses. Israel has largely reopened its economy in recent weeks while the pandemic appears to be receding, with infection rates, severe illness and hospitalizations dropping sharply.

    About a third of Israelis are below the age of 16, which means they are still not eligible for the shot.


    https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-h...-idUSKBN2BX0JX

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    CCP Virus Variant Affects Vaccinated People More Than Unvaccinated People: Study

    BY JACK PHILLIPS April 11, 2021 Updated: April 11, 2021

    A study from Tel Aviv University found that a South African variant of the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus affects people vaccinated with the Pfizer shot more than unvaccinated people.

    The study, which has not yet been peer-reviewed, indicated that the B.1.351 variant of the virus—also known as the novel coronavirus—was found eight times more than individuals who were unvaccinated, or 5.4 percent against 0.7 percent. Clalit Health Services, a top Israeli health-care provider, also helped in the study.

    “We found a disproportionately higher rate of the South African variant among people vaccinated with a second dose, compared to the unvaccinated group,” said Adi Stern of Tel Aviv University. “This means that the South African variant is able, to some extent, to break through the vaccine’s protection.”

    The study looked at 400 people who received at least one shot of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine and had contracted the COVID-19 variant and compared them to the same number of people who were infected and unvaccinated. Moderna’s vaccine is also used in Israel, but it was not included in the study.

    “It is the first in the world to be based on real-world data, showing that the vaccine is less effective against the South Africa variant, compared to both the original virus and the British variant,” said Professor Ran Balicer, director of research at Clalit, according to news reports.

    Stern said the study’s findings came as a surprise.

    “Based on patterns in the general population, we would have expected just one case of the South African variant, but we saw eight,” Stern told the Times of Israel. “Obviously, this result didn’t make me happy.” He added, “Even if the South African variant does break through the vaccine’s protection, it has not spread widely through the population.”

    He continued: “These preliminary findings necessitates close continued attention to the dissemination of this strain in Israel, emphasizing the need for epidemiological monitoring and systematic sequencing, in order to contain further spread of the South African variant in Israel.”

    The South African variant accounted for less than one percent of all COVID-19 cases in Israel, reported AFP, citing the study.

    “This means that the Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, though highly protective, probably does not provide the same level of protection against the South African (B.1.351) variant of the coronavirus,” the study said.

    Israel, separately, has rolled out a so-called “vaccine passport” system that allows people who have been vaccinated privileges over individuals who are not vaccinated. Such systems have been criticized by civil liberties groups, saying it would be an infringement on people’s rights, including privacy, and would potentially create a two-tiered class system of vaccinated and unvaccinated people.

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_mo...LzUg3AfA%3D%3D

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    I get my 2nd Pfizer vaccine in an hour...only means I am adding to a statistic that someone can use to argue one side or the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meathook View Post
    I get my 2nd Pfizer vaccine in an hour...only means I am adding to a statistic that someone can use to argue one side or the other.
    Yall will be alright. I grew a third arm after my second shot,but now i can scratch my ass with 3x the efficiency.

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    Have this crap now. Intermittent fever, aches and nausea with a stuffy nose.
    Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal? I wouldn't go so far as to call a dog filthy but they're definitely dirty. But, a dog's got personality. Personality goes a long way.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Saltydog235 View Post
    Have this crap now. Intermittent fever, aches and nausea with a stuffy nose.
    China Flu or vaccine after effects? Either way, feel better bubba...

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    "Chinese Communist Party virus", I like the way Israel calls it like they see it.

    Hope you get better Salty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saltydog235 View Post
    Have this crap now. Intermittent fever, aches and nausea with a stuffy nose.
    if you got it, start taking a baby aspirin immediately till till symptoms are gone and several days extra to be on the safe side.
    Last edited by mello_collins; 04-12-2021 at 01:29 PM.


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    The chink flu. Worst part is the nausea because I like to eat.
    Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal? I wouldn't go so far as to call a dog filthy but they're definitely dirty. But, a dog's got personality. Personality goes a long way.


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    Slope flu
    Nip flu
    Zipper flu

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    Chicom Ebola
    Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal? I wouldn't go so far as to call a dog filthy but they're definitely dirty. But, a dog's got personality. Personality goes a long way.


    You might take out a dozen before they drag you from your home and skull fuck you to death. Marsh Chicken 6/21/2013

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    I had it in December I think. Tested positive for antibodies recently through blood draw. I had 5 common symptoms including loss of smell but very short lived. Tested negative as well. Fuck China. Hope you feel better soon.
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    Deadset fails at reading comprehension.

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    If only there was a natural medicine that reduced nausea and increased appetite....

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    ^ what he said..
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