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    Default I have seen the enemy...

    ...and it is us

    I just completed a survey from the Saskatchewan DNR. It took me 15 minutes to complete, and as far as I could tell they were floating a weather balloon to gauge people's thoughts on making it mandatory for OOS'rs to use guides when hunting.

    I am sure that the "guide industry" is hurting like everything else thanks to the shutdowns. I am also sure that they have been using Covid like everyone else, to try to gain an advantage.

    A pox on those greedy American guides from Arkansas, Texas, and South Carolina for illegally guiding all these years while introducing many young Canadian "helpers" to a whole new revenue stream.

    What? You didn't think that they were going to grow up and let you keep all that money flowing back across the border did you? Oh, you did? Bless your hearts...

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    It’s kind of like all of these business owners, craftsmen, etc. creating online tutorials in which they charge 2-300 bucks where they tell people all of the techniques, tricks of the trade, how to start their own businesses doing the same thing, etc., knowledge they have spent a decade or more discovering for themselves. They’re going to just give away the playbook to people who are looking to compete with them?

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    Buy Sweetwater Guide beer.

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    Things changed when duck hunting transitioned from an amateur sport to a professional sport.
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    They’re phasing out the poor man hunting...next thing we know the squirrels and pigeons are going to need their own food plots and guides.

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    Big money has ruined duck hunting for the average Joe. As kids we wacked the ducks around Hartwell. And then Perry built his corn ponds...

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    There is no difference in paying someone to take you hunting and paying a prostitute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coot_Commander View Post
    They’re phasing out the poor man hunting...next thing we know the squirrels and pigeons are going to need their own food plots and guides.
    I will be ready when it’s time to guide squirrel hunts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sportin' Woodies View Post
    There is no difference in paying someone to take you hunting and paying a prostitute.
    Unless it’s Alaska..
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    Quote Originally Posted by PBiz View Post
    Unless it’s Alaska..
    Or Canada big game (no free lancing), mountain lion out west, international hunts, and a whole host of other trips that aren’t every day hunts.

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    Hell that should come as no surprise, the year after my last trip up there bear hunting in 1987, they started making people use guides. Pure bullshit but it is what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubberhead* View Post
    Things changed when duck hunting transitioned from an amateur sport to a professional sport.
    You are almost right. I would say when it became a money making venture.
    RIP Kelsey "Bigdawg" Cromer
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    If love could have saved you, you would have lived forever.

    Missing you my great friend.


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    I’ve freelanced for years up there and used a guide. Guides I talked to are in favor of having to use a guide up there obviously. Guides are cordoned off to guiding certain areas only and have to pay a fee to guide, I think on the fee. Freelancers compete with them. Compared to the states I think guides have it easier up there due to sheer numbers of birds and vastness of the prairie. Not saying it’s easy, still have to hunt and work. But anyway, better up there. Also, always some turds from the States fucking it up by being aggressive, not respectful and pissing off locals and the guides. The guides could make it easier on themselves if they worked hard and kept the locals in their pockets which would squeeze out the freelancers. The good ones do. The lazy ones just complain about having to pay to compete with guys from the states. I understand having to pay to only be able to work in a certain area and then the same people you’re paying, he gov., letting out of towners cone in and compete with you while you try to earn a living. But hey the cream rises to the top.
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    A guide gets paid regardless of the success of a hunt, and is using pretty much free material..

    I don’t feel sorry for them at all...
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    Perry who?
    That the Tiger's roar may echo.....

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    To local hunters the guide is no better or worse than the cyber-scouting, message-board, advice-soliciting DIY NR. "Hey, guys. I'm new here. Where can I kill some ______ in Saskatchewan? Thanks in advance."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sportin' Woodies View Post
    There is no difference in paying someone to take you hunting and paying a prostitute.
    I disagree. I would admit to buying a prostitute.

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    Haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by LabLuvR View Post
    You are almost right. I would say when it became a money making venture.
    Thanks for clearing that up.

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    Anytime precious!
    RIP Kelsey "Bigdawg" Cromer
    12-26-98 12-1-13

    If love could have saved you, you would have lived forever.

    Missing you my great friend.


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