D Watson traded to Patriots

[Black Bart]

No way I give up that much for a single player, but I am not running a team. Trades like that haven’t worked well in the past. Herschel was mentioned. Ricky Williams is another that comes to mind.

Didn't read the replies past yours, so I don't know if it's been said, but the Cowboys (ultimately) won three rings because of ol' Herschel. I'd say they came out WAY on top with that one.

[banded_mallard]

Being paid is not enough. Some want to win and put themselves in the best chance to win a Super Bowl. I agree that Houston can decide when and if they want to trade him, but he does get to dictate where he goes. I’m not one to agree that players shouldn’t have any say in a situation like this especially when the brass said they would keep him in the loop.

[Sportin' Woodies]

Did DeQuan ever get the name Clemson changed bc of how racist it is?

[Saltydog235]

Letting a 26-27yo you pay an ass of money to in order to get what he wants seems like a sound business decision.

[w33kender]

Apples to oranges.

Comparing your job/employer to being the Texans QB/the NFL don't even make sense.

Not attacking you but I am curious why the comparison doesn't make sense. The theme of Mr. Watson's complaint seems a common one in any kind of work environment.

[Black Bart]

Did DeQuan ever get the name Clemson changed bc of how racist it is?

Bowers? Don't think he cared that much.

[Sportin' Woodies]

Dequan Watson.

[Remy]

Being paid is not enough. Some want to win and put themselves in the best chance to win a Super Bowl. I agree that Houston can decide when and if they want to trade him, but he does get to dictate where he goes. I’m not one to agree that players shouldn’t have any say in a situation like this especially when the brass said they would keep him in the loop.

I know Watson wants to win, but if he wanted to keep his options open, he shouldn't have signed a 4 year contract with guaranteed money. IMO, you shouldn't get to have it both ways. Once you sign a long-term contract, you should shut up and play. If you want to keep your options open, only sign 1 year deals

[banded_mallard]

I know Watson wants to win, but if he wanted to keep his options open, he shouldn't have signed a 4 year contract with guaranteed money. IMO, you shouldn't get to have it both ways. Once you sign a long-term contract, you should shut up and play. If you want to keep your options open, only sign 1 year deals

It’s not that easy. There isn’t a team in the NFL that would sign a one year contract with a 3 time pro bowler that is as young as he is. That would give him to much leverage.

But for shits and giggles I’ll play. If he didn’t sign the contract he has less leverage now. He would have no trade clause, so they could send him anywhere. If I wanted out, I would do exactly what he did. Get my guaranteed money and request a trade. Now I get my money and I get to pick who I’m traded to. Only downfall is they could refuse. My question is could he pay the 21 million penalty , “retire” and become a free agent. If he chose to do that.


Not saying I would agree with it, just curious as to if that would be an option.

[Biggie1976]

its also being reported he is a stand up guy that got dicked by the Houston ownership and is worth millions of dollars bc of his talent on the football field.

You better stop telling the truth

[willyworm]

Not attacking you but I am curious why the comparison doesn't make sense. The theme of Mr. Watson's complaint seems a common one in any kind of work environment.

You good. I'm bored, so I'll bite.

But it's respective to his employer. I understand that some aspects of having a job are pretty universal; the employee showing up and doing his/her best effort, and the employer not being a complete shit bag, and paying the employees a fair wage commensurate to their performance and value to the organization.

It's like comparing a stripper and a Dallas Cowboy cheerleader. They're selling the same general product (entertainment) in a way of thinking, but the terms of employment and working conditions therein of those 2 types of work are WAY different. So to compare the two is not sensible due to those differences. Same case here.

The NFL or any pro sport is not a normal means of employment. This is fundamentally obvious.

That being said, those aforementioned universal aspects still apply. Would you not agree that Deshaun showed up, did the best job within his ability and put his team in the best position to win? I mean, look at his stats he put up from this season alone compared to the top QBs of teams playing in the playoffs. And yet the Texans wonb like, what, 4 games? Something don't add up and it ain't Watson's fault.

If you/we can agree to most of that thus far, then there's the employer's obligation to keep their end of the deal by creating a work environment conducive to keeping your employee(s) happy. Cause let's face it, another universally accepted principle of employment from the employer's side is that "a happy employee is a good employee". McNair volunteered to engage DW4 on the search for a new coach and GM, he didn't ask for it... only for McNair to turn and not do the very thing he volunteered to do. Read the article I referenced below. It'll give a little more color to the picture.

Watson had been assured by McNair that he would be involved in the process to hire a new coach and general manager and kept in the loop on the progress in those searches, but that didn't happen.

Source: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...io-sources-say

So in summary, DW4 did his job by showing up, being the leader they paid him to be and playing well. McNair hasn't pulled through on his end by keeping his star player happy and building a solid team with solid coaches. McNair screwed him over by not getting him some protection, trading away his best receiver target Nuke to get only a washed up RB in return, and just in general not sucking at running a NFL team.

To take a normal everyday job like being a Project Manager at Acme Industries and compare it to being an employee of a NFL team, some of the concepts work, others simply don't.



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[2thDoc]

i'm getting confused.
but i'm not sure how you bash deshaun for this. he has every right to ask to be traded. it just so happens he has some leverage.

[BullJakeGrappler]

I heard Jville could trade #1 and Urban rocks on w/ DW.

[Remy]

i'm getting confused.
but i'm not sure how you bash deshaun for this. he has every right to ask to be traded. it just so happens he has some leverage.

I personally don't have any issues with Watson and I'm sure he's a decent guy. I just get tired of professional athletes in general never being satisfied. They always talk about more money, wanting a better team or teammates, better environment, more equality with ownership, etc. Never satisfied to just do a good job and go home.

[Bigtimber2]

It is the way the game works. Owners play by the same rules. Remember Eli Manning willing to play for only certain teams and not honor the draft.

[Catdaddy]

He may be a stand up guy, but he wasn't very good at standing on one leg.

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[mudnut1970]

I think he beat Carolina on one leg.

[MKW]

I think he beat Carolina on one leg.

That ain't saying much.

[Bigtimber2]

Dado and Watson left wounds that will never heal in Columbia.

[Jozie & Me]

Typical Union employee.

Thinks they could be the CEO but couldn’t run the lunch counter.

But that mouth. If you could harness that power it would power every Tesla in the world.