What is it millett..?

[JCT]

10-4 didn’t have it last year. Thick this year.

[Blakeley]

I've always called it barnyard grass. Ducks will eat it.

[TreyMo]

The ducks may be the ones bringing it to your impoundments.

[Calibogue]

I've always called it barnyard grass. Ducks will eat it.

Barnyard has a darker seedhead which is also quite hairy.
This millet tends to be a late growing season germinator by my accounts.

[Calibogue]

SUMMARY......

OK, so it seems that it is indeed barnyardgrass (Echinochloa crusgalli) and the other in reference is Walter's millet (Echinochloa walteri).
I always thought they were one in the same species until now.
Someone brought this to my attention, I located my wetland plants bible (AQUATIC & WETLAND PLANTS OF THE S.E. U.S./Godfrey & Wooten) that has been boxed up from moves for quite some time, and lo and behold I see the differentiation of the two species.

By my accounts, Walter's is a early summer germinator and takes longer to reach maturation.
Barnyard germinates more often later in the summer and is a fast maturing plant.

I will try to get some contrasting pics of each species later today to post up for those interested.

[2thDoc]

just keep telling yourself that ducks LOVE IT!

[Calibogue]

Yeah, I'm quite certain they do.....Hell, they have spread it all over my wetlands through the years!

[Catdaddy]

SUMMARY......

OK, so it seems that it is indeed barnyardgrass (Echinochloa crusgalli) and the other in reference is Walter's millet (Echinochloa walteri).
I always thought they were one in the same species until now.
Someone brought this to my attention, I located my wetland plants bible (AQUATIC & WETLAND PLANTS OF THE S.E. U.S./Godfrey & Wooten) that has been boxed up from moves for quite some time, and lo and behold I see the differentiation of the two species.

By my accounts, Walter's is a early summer germinator and takes longer to reach maturation.
Barnyard germinates more often later in the summer and is a fast maturing plant.

I will try to get some contrasting pics of each species later today to post up for those interested.

If there any difference in food value?

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[BOGSTER]

Doc - they don’t eat it at BG?

[BOGSTER]

What up Blakeley

[Calibogue]

If there any difference in food value?

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I'm sure there is some research in space on that very issue, but I don't know the answer to that question.
I do know they are both considered highly preferred.
I have more barnyard that Walter's but that is probably b/c of the timing of soil prep....

[PBiz]

Looks like a good cover crop... You know, crops that would cover corn up..

Stating facts from a friend..

[Calibogue]

Barnyard on the left, Walter's on the right.....

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[swampshooter]

Table 5. Deterioration of selected seeds after 90 days of flooding.
Decomposition Plant name (%)
Soybean 86
Barnyardgrass 57
Corn 50
Common buckwheat 45
Milo 42
Giant bristlegrass 22
Pennsylvania smartweed 21
Cultivated rice 19
Water oak (acorns) 4
Hemp sesbania 4
Horned beakrush 2
Saltmarsh bulrush 1

Ducks eat it, but deterioration and gross energy are close to corn. I have a few wildlife PDF's I would be more than willing to share on Moist Soil Management if someone could help me get them on here. It keeps telling me the files are to large.

[Calibogue]

Interesting....If seed deterioration of barnyard is such an issue, how is it so prolific?

[BOGSTER]

If that’s correct, I’ll be surprised. Fairly certain I’ve seen heads in February while snipe hunting, that had been under water since Halloween.

[swampshooter]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...=1567016726494

[Blakeley]

I'm wondering the same thing. It's all over my current fields and had a sea of it in Inland Ricefields. Roundup takes care of it early when the corn is growing then a new crop pops up as sunlight begins to creep in the alleys. I've always thought of it as a good, natural food source early in the season when the water is rising.

I don't think sesbania nor sickle pod ever deteriorates!

Sup Bog!

[Glenn]

My plant identification sucks.

But, as with everything else, there's an app for that.

Seek app. Just used it on these pictures and it was dead on Cali's ID.

[2thDoc]

i dont flood my corn seed.

think people....