Iran

**Steelin' Ducks** · 05-11-2019, 03:50 PM

So with fuel prices already rising and now more sanctions, it is time to get the big fuel barrel filled up for the summer?

**Silentweapon338** · 05-11-2019, 04:08 PM

That’s power

**led0321** · 05-12-2019, 05:16 AM

Bolton never saw a war he didn’t like

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**Rabbitman09** · 05-12-2019, 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by Steelin' Ducks

So with fuel prices already rising and now more sanctions, it is time to get the big fuel barrel filled up for the summer?

Yessirrrr!

**tprice** · 05-12-2019, 07:25 AM

Have those towelhead bastards not realized this is like a prairie dog shoot to Americans, we rather enjoy seeing them explode when they try and screw with us.

Damn they are DUMB plus Trump is ITCHING to drop the hammer on somebody and draw attention away from the other daily crap .

Guess youtube will be loaded with flying ragheads

**Palmetto Bug** · 05-12-2019, 07:50 AM

I don't think Trump would start something just to make a news cycle.

Iran has been itching for a fight. When the Iraq Shock and Awe war was over, I thought at the time we should just pulled everyone out and send them directly over to Iran since they were already in the neighborhood. Unless they have an uprising and revolution, we're going to have to deal with them at some point.

**JABIII** · 05-12-2019, 08:35 AM

The Coast Guard could take Iran. They may think they want some. They would be mistaken...

**Fish** · 05-12-2019, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by Silentweapon338

But those pesky Scithians

Seems like I read some where the king of the north will end up getting involved.

WTF are you even talking about? And WTF is a scithian?

No country wants a piece of our Navy. The threat we now face is electronic.

**Wad Shooter** · 05-12-2019, 09:56 AM

I take SW to be warning of Russian involvement, but only Q knows for sure.

**Silentweapon338** · 05-12-2019, 10:58 AM

As many like to say the book has already been written. The players are all lining up for Gog MaGog. So basically you have Turkey, Russia, and Iran making up the whole of the Scythians. Looks like all of those guys could easily get sucked in to a battle.
IE WW3

I'm surprised Fish. Your usually up on your history.

Scythian, also called Scyth, Saka, and Sacae, member of a nomadic people, originally of Iranian stock, known from as early as the 9th century BCE who migrated westward from Central Asia to southern Russia and Ukraine in the 8th and 7th centuries BCE. The Scythians founded a rich, powerful empire centred on what is now Crimea. The empire survived for several centuries before succumbing to the Sarmatians during the period from the 4th century BCE to the 2nd century CE.

Until the 20th century, most of what was known of the history of the Scythians came from the account of them by the ancient Greek historian Herodotus, who visited their territory. In modern times that record has been expanded chiefly by Russian and other anthropologists excavating kurgans in such places as Tyva and Kazakhstan.

The Scythians were feared and admired for their prowess in war and, in particular, for their horsemanship. They were among the earliest people to master the art of riding, and their mobility astonished their neighbours. The migration of the Scythians from Asia eventually brought them into the territory of the Cimmerians, who had traditionally controlled the Caucasus and the plains north of the Black Sea. In a war that lasted 30 years, the Scythians destroyed the Cimmerians and set themselves up as rulers of an empire stretching from west Persia through Syria and Judaea to the borders of Egypt. The Medes, who ruled Persia, attacked them and drove them out of Anatolia, leaving them finally in control of lands which stretched from the Persian border north through the Kuban and into southern Russia.

The prophecy of Ezekiel 38 and 39, often referred to as the Battle of Gog and Magog is hands-down, one of the most influential end-time prophecies in all of Scripture. But it is also arguably one of the most misinterpreted prophecies. In previous articles, Its been explained that while many prophecy teachers claim that Ezekiel is speaking of a Russia-led invasion of Israel, the historical record and modern scholarship show that it is in fact a Turkish-led invasion. As previously discussed, the popular but faulty line of reasoning many follow to conclude a Russian-led invasion is as follows:

1. Magog and the Scythians are one and the same.
2. The Scythians lived in Russia.
3. Gog, the leader of Ezekiel’s invasion, comes from Magog.
4. Thus Ezekiel’s prophesied invasion is led by a leader from Russia.

The problem with this line of reasoning is that history tells us that the Scythians were a nomadic migratory people who rarely stayed in one place for very long. The question is not if the Scythians ever lived in the region that has become modern-day Russia, but rather, where did the Magog/Scythian people live specifically in Ezekiel’s day? We are not concerned with where the Scythians lived several hundred or even thousands of years after Ezekiel. Our only concern is to discover where they lived during Ezekiel’s day. Lets review a small sampling of historical sources to see where they placed the Magog/Scythian people during Ezekiel’s day.

Herodotus (484– 425 B.C.)

Herodotus, the Greek historian, lived roughly 150 years after Ezekiel. In his day, he placed the homeland of the Scythians in the region extending from eastern Europe to Moldova and the Ukraine. According to Dr. Michael Kulikowski, department head of History at Pennsylvania State University, “Herodotus’ Scythians were to be found in a bit of modern Bulgaria and Romania, and across the grasslands of Moldova and Ukraine” but not Russia. Another essential point is that while Herodotus also discusses Meshech and Tubal, two of the regions that Magog is ruler over, and placed them squarely in Anatolia (modern-day Turkey).

Pliny The Elder (d. A.D. 79)

Pliny the Elder, a first-century Roman military commander, author, naturalist and philosopher, referred to the Turkish city of Hieropolis as the heartland of Magog. Hierapolis was an ancient Greco-Roman city in Phyrgia near Laodicea. Hieropolis was also known as Scythopolis, (City of Scythes) which the peoples of that day referred to as Magog. One would think that this would be crucial information to consider and mention, yet in the numerous popular books and treatments of Gog and Magog I’ve reviewed in my studies, I have never once seen this important historical reference cited.

Hippolytus (d. 235)

Roughly a hundred years after Pliny, Hippolytus, one of the most important Christian theologians of the early third century, spoke of Magog. In his work known as “The Chronicon,” Hippolytus also connected Magog to Asia Minor – modern-day Turkey. One would also think this to be a crucial reference to cite. Hippolytus is one of the most prolific early Christian writers concerning the last days. Yet again, in the many popular works arguing for a Russian Magog correlation, I have never once seen it mentioned.

Maimonides (d.1205)

Maimonides, also known as Rambam, the revered Jewish sage, in “Hichot Terumot,” also identified Magog as being in the modern nation of Turkey.

John Wesley (1755)

In fact, this connection between modern-day Turkey and Magog was well-known among Christian theologians for centuries. In his “Explanatory Notes” on Ezekiel 38 and 39, John Wesley says the following:

Magog is, at least, part of Scythia, and comprehends Syria, in which was Hierapolis taken by the Scythians, and called of them Scythopolis. It is that country, which now is in subjection to the Turks, and may be extended thro’ Asia minor, the countries of Sarmatia, and many others, under more than one in succession of time. And in the last time under some one active and daring prince, all their power will be stirred up against Christians.
Modern scholarship

It is because of this fact, ignored by virtually all modern-day popular prophecy teachers, that the homeland of the Scythians during Ezekiel’s day was in western Asia Minor, that so many modern scholars place Magog in Asia Minor or specifically in the ancient Kingdom of Lydia (Western Turkey).

**JABIII** · 05-12-2019, 11:04 AM

Perhaps we do need to export a little freedom to Persia.

Invest in General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin, Northrup Grumman, McDonnell Douglas, and Raytheon.

**duckcommander727** · 05-12-2019, 11:22 AM

I would prefer they deliver peace to iran whenever i leave the crappy middle east. So if they could hold off until August id be happy.

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**Silentweapon338** · 05-12-2019, 11:26 AM

If we played our cards right we can probably stoke the masses over there a tad and get them to over throw the Mullahs.

It wasn't that long ago Iran was a beacon of western excess.

The Shaw turned the desert into a freaking oasis.

I can't help but think there is a large segment that wants western goods again, and has had enough of the 14th century non sense.

Here is the desert party. Its pretty wild. For you youngins that think the nation has always been a bunch of rambling goat screwers worshiping that moon cult.

This is narrated by Orsen Wells.

**mello_collins** · 05-12-2019, 11:47 AM

Attacking them will cause national cohesion of the iranian populous. After 9/11 even the dems wanted to fight. We would have to let them get in several hits before we respond or it will be just like iraq. Also, just striking republican guard or key installations to topple the gov might work but then all the bad players are still alive in the population. Just like iraq. You have to stand and let them come at you with some c&c to get the bad players to attack so you can wipe them out. Rumsfeld screwed us in iraq by racing to Baghdad and detouring around pockets of resistance.

**Gunning Bird** · 05-12-2019, 01:48 PM

SW338 - that video is quite a collection of PR photos. I hope you really don't believe what is being presented was the norm back then. Were there pockets of "civilization" and "culture"? Certainly, but very few and very far between. Boots on the ground from 1976 - 1978...

**Strick9** · 05-12-2019, 05:55 PM

There isn't much left in their fight drive period as to the Izzies inlcuding that group. Some fellas that play peanuckle over there on the reg have been having quite a bit of fun. Somewhere there is a meme that something to the effect " I wish a ...would. "

**Silentweapon338** · 05-13-2019, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by Gunning Bird

SW338 - that video is quite a collection of PR photos. I hope you really don't believe what is being presented was the norm back then. Were there pockets of "civilization" and "culture"? Certainly, but very few and very far between. Boots on the ground from 1976 - 1978...

Sure there was marketing going on, but what they had is better than what they got now.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ghten-control/
The morality police in Iran added that they will now arrest anyone playing music on their car radio and will tow their car away and hand them a heavy fine.

Men in Iran have been ordered not to look at women during Ramadan as part of a round of draconian restrictions imposed by the increasingly isolated regime.

In a sign of frustration with growing civil discontent and economic pain caused by US sanctions, hardliners in Iran's government are forcing through unusually strict social diktats to bring people into line.

The country's judiciary has announced that those eating in public during the fasting period are also in breach of laws and will be prosecuted.

“My personal advice to women is to respect the hijab even more than before and gentlemen must avoid looking directly at female passersby," Gholam- Hossein Esmaili, a judiciary spokesperson said.

"Anyone ignoring these instructions during the Ramadan will be committing an offence and should expect some punishment from the law enforcement units."

**mello_collins** · 05-13-2019, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by Silentweapon338

Sure there was marketing going on, but what they had is better than what they got now.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ghten-control/
The morality police in Iran added that they will now arrest anyone playing music on their car radio and will tow their car away and hand them a heavy fine.

Men in Iran have been ordered not to look at women during Ramadan as part of a round of draconian restrictions imposed by the increasingly isolated regime.

In a sign of frustration with growing civil discontent and economic pain caused by US sanctions, hardliners in Iran's government are forcing through unusually strict social diktats to bring people into line.

The country's judiciary has announced that those eating in public during the fasting period are also in breach of laws and will be prosecuted.

“My personal advice to women is to respect the hijab even more than before and gentlemen must avoid looking directly at female passersby," Gholam- Hossein Esmaili, a judiciary spokesperson said.

"Anyone ignoring these instructions during the Ramadan will be committing an offence and should expect some punishment from the law enforcement units."

That hole area of the world is awash in guns. Do you see armed up risings? No. It is not up to us to "free" them. Unless they have their own concord moment, you are spinning your wheels.