E Collars

[darealdeal]

If you want some good advice on when and how to use an E-Collar the correct way and how to introduce a dog to one look up Bill Hillmann. He has a lot of you tube videos that will lend you a hand on how to go about this subject. A lot deals with being able to read the dog and proper introduction.

[head hunter]

I've never seen a dog "ruined" by a collar. I have seen lots of dogs that can't handle pressure. Those dogs have a tendency to lay down and stop functioning when the collar is put on their neck. Those are house pets. Gun dogs can take pressure. If you find yourself with a soft dog, get used to disappointment.

could not be a more inaccurate statement! Let me know if you want to see a soft dog that cannot take pressure break ice to retrieve a duck! Amazes me the amount of trainers that still believe you have to train with pressure. I am not opposed to pressure or e collars, but this is a very inaccurate statement!

[MudCat05]

Fish is right about a dog never being ruined by a collar. Their has never been a dog ruined by a collar. They have been ruined by the idiot running the collar. BIG DIFFERENCE!!! That same idiot can ruin a dog without a collar. Prey drive and how much biddable sense your dog has defines how trainable it is period.

[Gregory]

Fish is right about a dog never being ruined by a collar. Their has never been a dog ruined by a collar. They have been ruined by the idiot running the collar. BIG DIFFERENCE!!! That same idiot can ruin a dog without a collar. Prey drive and how much biddable sense your dog has defines how trainable it is period.

Partially true. It's hard to ruin one without an E collar. But, you are absolutely correct, it's the idiot running the collar.

[raybird]

Don’t listen to fish. He don’t know what he’s talking about.

[uga_dawg]

Blaming a shock collar for a bad trainer sounds like the same argument as blaming the gun instead of the shooter.

You can do the same thing with a whip or choke collar.

I agree consistentcy is important. But then again it is with any other training method. A dog can be ruined quicker with a shock collar. Just like a man can be murdered quicker with a pistol than a knife.

[MudCat05]

Another thing. A dog does not shut down because of pressure. It shuts down due to lack of understanding of what the pressure is for.

[Gregory]

Another thing. A dog does not shut down because of pressure. It shuts down due to lack of understanding of what the pressure is for.

Winner!