Here in lies your Pen raised mallard proponents within the house

[ecwooduck]

What a shit show, I'll reach out to Sabb this morning. I wasn't planning on talking to a democrat when I got out of bed this morning, thanks for the update Strick

[Johnny Reb]

I plan to have an amendment in the house allowing unlimited tamie killing the last 8 days of the season. That will enable the tamie shooters to eliminate as many as possible to prevent the gene pool pollution.

Don’t waste your time. This practice is already done. Legal or not.



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[2thDoc]

are we confusing two bills here? all this political mumbo-jumbo is hard to follow.

Seeing Philip Lowe's name on the YEA list is the only thing that makes sense. His explanation is also exactly what I would expect. The "its not my fault" defense.

WHEN ARE OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS GOING TO LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED THEM IN????

[BRR]

are we confusing two bills here? all this political mumbo-jumbo is hard to follow.

Seeing Philip Lowe's name on the YEA list is the only thing that makes sense. His explanation is also exactly what I would expect. The "its not my fault" defense.

WHEN ARE OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS GOING TO LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED THEM IN????

The day we start carrying them out on a rail again!

[Sportin' Woodies]

If y'all would pray hard enough, you'd see God wants us to shoot tame ducks

[JBK]

If y'all would pray hard enough, you'd see God wants us to shoot tame ducks

And the church said? "Amen"

[JABIII]

However, this bill does not allow you, if on public water or non permitted land, to kill banded tame birds and exclude them from your wild bird limit.

I have never needed permission from the same state agency that allows hunting wild waterfowl over live decoys to tell me that I can throw a tamie in a bush. In fact, when DNR did a banding project with us, every tamie we caught was killed immediately on the spot.

[Rubberhead*]

TI plan to have an amendment in the house allowing unlimited tamie killing the last 8 days of the season. That will enable the tamie shooters to eliminate as many as possible to prevent the gene pool pollution.

While allowing them to be used as live decoys for the bulk of the season - good idea.

[2thDoc]

The feds controlled this issue. They never made a case against call birds. This practice proliferated.

Judge ruled they are his livestock and he can kill them any way he wants.

Without support of the federal law they are nothing more than chickens, like Jab said.


I hear the senate will allow 4 tamies. I plan to have an amendment in the house allowing unlimited tamie killing the last 8 days of the season. That will enable the tamie shooters to eliminate as many as possible to prevent the gene pool pollution.

I just read the entire bill and your "excuse" above holds no water. Can you seriously explain why you voted yes for this?

Section 50 11 2710. No person may release mallard ducks for the purpose of hunting unless he has obtained a regulated shooting area permit for mallard ducks except for bona fide dog training or field trial purposes pursuant to 50 CFR Part 21.

I find this all so very interesting. So, the .gov will collect $200 from anyone who releases a tame duck? I wonder what jmartin and the two ponds crowd think of this??? $200 whole dollars? Wow. What a crock.

Its utterly insane that you cant call it what it is. It is NOT a money maker for the state. It is OBVIOUSLY a ploy from powerful people who control their elected officials to do their bidding. People always say "follow the money" and I thought maybe the money would, at least, end up with the State...but the only place you are watching money in this instance is in the politician's pocket.

I would love to hear your rebuttal. And spare me the "you can run for office any time you want" answer...

[FEETDOWN]

WHEN ARE OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS GOING TO LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED THEM IN????

I'll take "They aren't" for $1000 Alex

[Calibogue]

I just read the entire bill and your "excuse" above holds no water. Can you seriously explain why you voted yes for this?



I find this all so very interesting. So, the .gov will collect $200 from anyone who releases a tame duck? I wonder what jmartin and the two ponds crowd think of this??? $200 whole dollars? Wow. What a crock.

Its utterly insane that you cant call it what it is. It is NOT a money maker for the state. It is OBVIOUSLY a ploy from powerful people who control their elected officials to do their bidding. People always say "follow the money" and I thought maybe the money would, at least, end up with the State...but the only place you are watching money in this instance is in the politician's pocket.

I would love to hear your rebuttal. And spare me the "you can run for office any time you want" answer...

Carpet bagger #

[BRR]

While there is a push for a coyote bounty, can we get a bounty on crooked legislators as well? Getting rid of a few legislators might be more effective...........

[wskinner]

I'll take "They aren't" for $1000 Alex

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[Rubberhead*]

Here's a list or reasons why she got it wrong that I sent to my state legislator...

• The MRP deflects funds from legitimate waterfowl management practices and organizations that focus on improving wintering and breeding habitats
• Release mallards are live decoys and are purposefully used as live decoys which is against federal law – we have at least one website that specifically advertised live decoys
• Release mallards migrate and compete with wild ducks for breeding habitat…this most notably hurts American black ducks by displacing them to less productive habitat or reduces black duck populations through hybridization
• The genetics of release mallards are damaged and permanently spreads these damaged genes to the wild population...it is well known that the genetics of captive mallards morph in just a few generations - many breeds of ranched ducks are from 100% mallard stocks but are unrecognizable as mallards
• Put-and-take of mallards counters the long-held argument of hunters that hunting is not about killing something but the pursuit of something – MRP makes that case that hunting is entirely about killing something – in other words this is not fair-chase
• Birds raised in confined and unnatural conditions then introduced into wild populations are likely conduits for disease...Unlike hatchery reared trout or pen raised quail mallards are migratory and free-ranging making the spread of disease more wide-ranging when it does happen
• Birders (Bird Watchers) pride themselves on only listing wild birds that have never been captive or relocated by purposeful human efforts – No South Carolina birder can confidently list a mallard seen in this state as wild.

[Rubberhead*]

The really sad thing is that the three House Members that voted against this are all Democrats...

[Hogg]

Can't believe Kirkman voted for it.

[Duckman#1]

are we confusing two bills here? all this political mumbo-jumbo is hard to follow.

Seeing Philip Lowe's name on the YEA list is the only thing that makes sense. His explanation is also exactly what I would expect. The "its not my fault" defense.

WHEN ARE OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS GOING TO LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED THEM IN????

Never. Their not in it for the people it’s all about special interest. He a sell out. Guess god spoke to him again

[welltaut]

Can't believe Kirkman voted for it.

Do any legislators on the “yes” list release ducks themselves?

Have no prior knowledge/don’t know them personally.. Could possibly explain the overwhelming yes vote.

[Rabbitman09]

Do any legislators on the “yes” list release ducks themselves?

Have no prior knowledge/don’t know them personally.. Could possibly explain the overwhelming yes vote.

Hell no, they don't want to fool with all that work themselves. The legislators get INVITED to hunt at those places!

[2thDoc]

Can't believe Kirkman voted for it.

Since he is my rep, i'll admit I made contact with him so he could explain to me things I dont comprehend. With his blessing, I will report back what he says....