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    Quote Originally Posted by Whackumstackum View Post
    Wow. I see all these posts of coyotes being an "unsolvable problem" and "they'll never be under control", well not with that attitude. It wasn't but a short time ago men in this country killed and trapped critters to the brink of extinction. Ask the buffalo. IF we wanted them dead bad enough it wouldn't take long, but we don't want to put forth the effort. Anything that makes it more attractive for people like Ricky to keep trapping I'm all for it.
    There’s pretty good evidence out there that supports it’s nearly impossible to kill off coyote populations. Look at what they did when a bounty was put on them during the early part of the 20th century. Wolves were all but eradicated during that same bounty.

    I think using what happened to Buffalo is a poor example for many reasons. Buffalo were easier to kill is large numbers, have much longer gestational periods, and typically produce fewer offspring when they give birth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MKW View Post
    He lives about 200yrds from me.
    Well stop shooting his cats and blaming it on the coyotes.

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    Just bring M44's back.

    It will knock them back tremendously!

    Upshot is when the tide pod crowd finds out they have something new too try and huff then we get less of them too from cyanide poisoning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerbdog View Post
    There’s pretty good evidence out there that supports it’s nearly impossible to kill off coyote populations. Look at what they did when a bounty was put on them during the early part of the 20th century. Wolves were all but eradicated during that same bounty.

    I think using what happened to Buffalo is a poor example for many reasons. Buffalo were easier to kill is large numbers, have much longer gestational periods, and typically produce fewer offspring when they give birth.
    I'll agree that was a poor comparison. I don't agree that we as hunters cant beat them down enough to make a difference. I've heard and read a lot about this topic lately and everyone seems to have an opinion but no one wants to work towards a solution. I've also seen where folks are bashing trappers that sell coyotes to the fox pens. The 75$ bounty would be enough for some trappers to put a bullet in a coyotes head. Few people have the time and resources to run a successful trap line out of the goodness of their heart, there has got to be an incentive, if its a fox pen so be it, coyote is removed and is most likely going to get caught and killed in the pen. At the end of the day we don't need anymore studies, we need to band together and get shit done, its not rocket science.

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    I'll be the one to say it and take the shots.

    I've yet to be convinced that coyotes are a boogyman worthy of bills, bounties and eradicating.
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    Maybe a start would be to make fox pens illegal and selling coyotes illegal. It must be coincidental that we didn’t have coyotes until we had fox pens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BugBuster View Post
    Maybe a start would be to make fox pens illegal and selling coyotes illegal. It must be coincidental that we didn’t have coyotes until we had fox pens.
    Tell me how armadillos got here then? Or any other of the 49 coyotes have migrated and started a stronghold?

    The same way you go after hogs is how you treat them imo.

    And no, I don’t like the bounty idea.....at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn View Post
    I'll be the one to say it and take the shots.

    I've yet to be convinced that coyotes are a boogyman worthy of bills, bounties and eradicating.
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    Not to say trapping doesn't help, because I really truly think it does.

    But "500% fawn recruitment" doesn't mean shit to me. 500% increase over what base line?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn View Post
    I'll be the one to say it and take the shots.

    I've yet to be convinced that coyotes are a boogyman worthy of bills, bounties and eradicating.
    I’ll jump on that bandwagon with you. Haven’t had a chance to say it but I’m with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gut_Pile View Post
    Not to say trapping doesn't help, because I really truly think it does.

    But "500% fawn recruitment" doesn't mean shit to me. 500% increase over what base line?
    That base line can vary from area to area and I can’t say what Marks baseline was on this property but on average in the Southeast about 0.4-0.5 per doe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn View Post
    I'll be the one to say it and take the shots.

    I've yet to be convinced that coyotes are a boogyman worthy of bills, bounties and eradicating.
    Agreed

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    Bounties or not I trap and enjoy the benefits of it every day off my front porch

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    I started dog hunting for deer over forty years ago. We had red and gray foxes. Then they started fencing in fox pens to get the dogs ready for deer season. Foxes typically would not run far or long so they started bringing in coyotes. Now I’m sure some migrated up from Georgia as did the armadillos but the fox pens are sped the process up imho.
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    Make no mistake. I'm not pro coyote or against trapping and killing them.

    But if I have an idea the first question I ask is "has this been done before and has it been successful in helping reach the goal?"

    Some quick searching and reading says yes bounties have been tried and no it has not had any affect on coyotes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BugBuster View Post
    I started dog hunting for deer over forty years ago. We had red and gray foxes. Then they started fencing in fox pens to get the dogs ready for deer season. Foxes typically would not run far or long so they started bringing in coyotes. Now I’m sure some migrated up from Georgia as did the armadillos but the fox pens are sped the process up imho.
    I agree T, just saying it’s not the only reason they are here or anywhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn View Post
    I'll be the one to say it and take the shots.

    I've yet to be convinced that coyotes are a boogyman worthy of bills, bounties and eradicating.
    I completely agree. For a state with a long track record of implementing asinine wildlife management practices on the whims of politicians, I believe this bill might be the most asinine I've heard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BugBuster View Post
    Maybe a start would be to make fox pens illegal and selling coyotes illegal.
    We would have had coyotes anyways through natural dispersal, since we effectively eradicated the red wolf. Coyotes just filled their ecological niche. While I agree with Glenn about coyotes not being the boogyman they've been made out to be, coyote pens and the selling of live coyotes should have been made illegal a long time ago.

    That's a cause worthy of petitioning the state legislature for, I'm my opinion.

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    I don’t know this may be a close tie with stumping the lake.
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