Good news for doe tag haters

[Rooster13]

The full Agriculture committee of the House today passed House Bill 3750 as amended. The Cliff Notes version of this bill is to do away with the date specific doe tags and replace them with 2 free doe tags that can be used from September 15th-January 1st inclusive. You will still be able to purchase 4 additional doe tags to be used any day also. If the House passes this bill, it will then go to the Senate for consideration. This bill is on a very fast track and has a lot of supporters including the SCDNR, the Farm Bureau, and local QDMA people. If it passes both and is signed by the Governor it would go into effect for this upcoming season. Please call your local representatives and tell them you support this bill. It will do away with a lot of headaches.

While not a part of the bill, I have been told by some people in the know that the DNR is considering giving you an additional 2 free tags if you purchase the 4 additional tags. This would encourage people to buy the extra tags and generate revenue that would be lost from people content to just get 2 any day tags and not need anymore.

[banded_mallard]

I like it.

[britton40]

Problem

deer population is down

Solution

Let’s give em 8 doe tags

[Bad Habit]

excellent

[Chuck the Duck Slayer]

What about telecheck

[Duck cutter]

What about telecheck

Somebody just had to go there

[Glenn]

What about telecheck

Baby steps. You'll spook 'em if you run at 'em wavin' and stuff.

[Rabbitman09]

Problem

deer population is down

Solution


Let’s give em 8 doe tags

With CWD spreading getting closer and closer, we need the population wayyy down. Once that shit gets here I'm done with eating venison so there won't be any need to hunt deer other than for horns.

[JABIII]

Popular Science says...

Scientists worry 'zombie deer' disease could jump to humans

If you’ve heard of “zombie deer,” you’ve heard of the horrors of chronic wasting disease. CWD causes infected animals to stumble through the forest, sometimes drooling and becoming aggressive towards humans they once feared. They lose weight. They’re listless. The spookiest thing about it, though, isn’t its resemblance to zombie-dom—it’s the fact that it’s an incurable prion disease.

Prions are misfolded proteins that are somehow infectious (we’re still not really sure how or why) and for which we have no treatments or cures. If you were to catch one, you’d basically deteriorate over the course of several months, possibly losing the ability to speak or move, and eventually you would die. Doctors wouldn't be able to do anything to save you.

Right now, CWD appears limited to deer, moose, and elk. But University of Minnesota researchers warned local lawmakers this week that we should be taking action now to prevent the potential spread to humans. Michael Osterholm, director of the university’s Center for Infectious Disease Research and Prevention, testified that “It is my best professional judgment based on my public health experience and the risk of BSE transmission to humans in the 1980s and 1990s and my extensive review and evaluation of laboratory research studies … that it is probable that human cases of CWD associated with the consumption of contaminated meat will be documented in the years ahead. It is possible that number of human cases will be substantial and will not be isolated events,” according to the Pioneer Press.

Osterholm would know; he's seen this kind of thing before. For a long time, experts thought another prion disease, bovine spongiform encephalopathy, better known as mad cow disease, couldn’t infect humans. Then they discovered that it actually was possible (though extremely rare) for humans who ate infected meat or came into contact with infected tissue to contract a variant of the human prion disease Creutzfeldt-Jakob. Osterholm was one of the experts who sat on British review panels at the time of the mad cow disease scare, and predicted the prions could make the leap into humans.

This is precisely why researchers are now investigating whether CWD could be transmitted across species lines. Part of that investigation has been to see whether it could infect other mammals, like hamsters and mice. (It definitely can, though it's not clear by what mechanisms.) Another part is simply looking at cases in which people contract prion diseases—or experience symptoms similar to one—and see whether they’re connected to eating infected meat.

Over the years, the Centers for Disease Control has investigated a number of these cases. In the 1990s, three deer hunters contracted Creutzfeldt-Jakob (known as CJD or vCJD when referring to the variant caught from infected meat) when they were less than 30 years old, which raised concern, because these diseases typically take years to develop and people aren't often diagnosed when they're young. In the early 2000s, several more patients turned up with CJD and then several more with vague neurological symptoms that resembled prion diseases. Three men in particular all ate together at regular wild game feasts. Two of them were suspected of having CJD, but one didn’t have any visible signs of a prion disease apart from his rapid neurological deterioration. All of the patients suspected over the years died not long after their symptoms occurred and nearly all of them had eaten meat that they or someone they knew had hunted. But in all of these cases, investigators either found that the meat wasn’t from an area known to be infected with CWD or found no biological connection between their CJD and CWD. Some weren’t even confirmed to have prion diseases.

These may all have been coincidences. After all, CJD rates aren’t any higher in areas with infected deer populations than anywhere else in the United States. But as a 2004 report from the CDC notes, we also don’t know enough about chronic wasting disease or its counterpart Creutzfeldt-Jakob to know for sure. “Because CWD has occurred in a limited geographic area for decades, an adequate number of people may not have been exposed to the CWD agent to result in a clinically recognizable human disease” the report reads. “The level and frequency of human exposure to the CWD agent may increase with the spread of CWD in the United States.”

Chronic wasting disease has been spreading since at least 1981, when it was first identified in wild deer (it had been found in captive deer in the late 1960s). It began in Colorado, but since then has spread to Wyoming, then even farther into the Midwest and Southwest. As of 2019 it’s in 24 states. Most of these locations have low infection rates among local animal populations, but according to the CDC some have rates above 10 or even 25 percent.



As it spreads in one species, a 2012 review in Emerging Infectious Diseases notes, the likelihood of it spreading across species lines goes up. “The potential for interspecies CWD transmission (by cohabitating mammals) will only increase as the disease spreads and CWD prions continue to be shed into the environment,” the study notes. This process of moving within and between species might exert a selective pressure, the authors say, and this might help the prions move across a previously impenetrable barrier.

Though there’s still no concrete evidence that the disease can cross the species boundary into humans, both the CDC and the World Health Organization considers there to be a possibility that it can or one day could. Researchers like Osterholm are calling for a widespread test to be produced so that hunters could determine for themselves whether meat is infected. Right now, testing is expensive and not even available in all states. University of Minnesota researchers are in the process of developing that test right now.

In the meantime, if you hunt (or eat meat that others have hunted for) in one of the infected areas, the CDC doesn’t necessarily say you can’t eat your venison. They do recommend you not eat any animals that look sick or are acting strangely and to minimize touching the organs as much as possible (especially the brain and spinal cord). You can also, in some states, get the meat tested by contacting your local wildlife authority. Beyond that, it’s up to you to decide whether the risk is worth it. This is untrodden territory.

https://www.popsci.com/chronic-wasti...hunting#page-2

[Rabbitman09]

Exactly. What a cluster fuck that will be trying to get meat tested. Wonder how long that takes to get results back? Probably longer than 7 days so you will have processed and frozen your deer and once you get the results back you might have to throw it all away. I hunt deer to EAT. Yes, nice horns are cool, but if our deer become effected, that will be the end of a tradition of deer hunting in my family. I guess the yankee implants won't mind....they probably don't eat their deer anyways.

[fro]

With CWD spreading getting closer and closer, we need the population wayyy down. Once that shit gets here I'm done with eating venison so there won't be any need to hunt deer other than for horns.

Bullshit's ass. I will still hunt them! And won't mind one bit sawing them off and rolling them into the gut pit, right next to the swine!!!

[Glenn]

I'll eat every one you don't want.

[quackaddict]

I'll eat every one you don't want.

Here lately, I'll think up a sporty post to type up, and then get let down when I see that you beat me to the punch with pretty much exactly what I was going to say.

I don't know how I feel about this per-dik-a-ment.

[Southernduck]

Problem

deer population is down

Solution

Let’s give em 8 doe tags

Up in that sorry ass land y’all have, it is way up down here.

[Glenn]

Here lately, I'll think up a sporty post to type up, and then get let down when I see that you beat me to the punch with pretty much exactly what I was going to say.

I don't know how I feel about this per-dik-a-ment.

You best go and get checked out. ASAP.

[Timberman22]

Essentially they're reducing the limit. The tags were aggravating but I'm getting tired of every limit being reduced. Before long it will be (1) buck, minimum 180" B&C with min. 20" inside spread and (2) does.

[ARROW HEAD]

How many people have died from CWD?

[Glenn]

How many people have died from CWD?

When factor in all the variables and account for margin of error you come up with...


0. Naught. Zero. Nern. Not one case.

[quackaddict]

You best go and get checked out. ASAP.

Just hung up the phone with my essential oils consultant and I’ve got a plan in the works. Thanks for the heads up.


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[SaltMuck]

In 10 or so years, we’ll go from shooting mostly as we please to paying for every deer we kill. Pay the county to own the land. Pay the state to kill the deer on it.