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    I'm with you guys on all the older stuff. Love a Wingmaster, express, 1100, etc. I do however have a Versa Max. I had a family member at Remington during the first few years of the PE buyout. He got me one of the first ones to be available. As much as I DON'T want to like it, I seem to shoot it really well and it works great. I want a reason to not like it, for it to break or for it to shoot bad, I really do, but it wont. It is also the only plastic shotgun I own but I didn't pay for it so I justify that way. It goes bang and kills ducks really well. I want a new cool fancy duck killer but I don't want to buy one so I guess I'll keep using her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pcole View Post
    This. The Teflon in rem oil will destroy anything plastic inside a gun. Trust me, I had to completely replace all the plastic recoil reducing parts in a gold Hunter because of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by willyworm View Post
    Out of curiosity spur, what model Remington put the nail in the coffin?

    I do agree modem 870's ain't what they used to be, same goes for 11-87/1100. I got say though this V3 I got a couple years ago has been a helluva firearm so far.

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    Well to tell the truth it was two. One was a Walmart 12ga 870SM express that had a choke bored off center. Remington made that good, sent a new barrel with no questions asked and to tell the truth after a little barrel polishing it is a fine gun, shoots beads and patterns wonderfully.

    The second one was a 26" 20ga 1187 sportsman from PSA in Greenville. The barrel proved to be very rough and shot a full foot below the bead. I contacted Remington and they sent a new barrel. It shot low too and the barrel was also rough as heck. I contacted them again and sent the gun to them. About 2 months later I got it back with a target and a inspection report. Read "Gun patterned at 20 yards with full choke and #6s. Shot within specifications." Pattern was noticeably low on the 20 yards pattern but apparently still in their "specifications". I went on to polish both barrels. Put the barrel that shot less low with a Burris FF3 on the gun and killed a limit of turkeys. A year or two later I sent the other barrel off (still had it as they didn't ask for it back) to Johnny Stone and had him cut the barrel down to 24" and install a trulock turkey choke. Gun now shoots beads and patterns very good. You figure out why rem couldn't get the chokes straight for me. So I guess it was a multitude of things. I'm a tinkerer and admittedly picky but all of that was new bad trend for me. I wish I had a nickle for every quail, dove and turkey I've killed with 1100s & 870s. No hater here. No clue about versa maxes, never shot one. Wanted one of those V3s badly a few years back, posted here asking about it but no one knew anything. That's what drove me to shop around and handle a bunch of guns. Ben, ber, franchi, win, brown, etc. Liked the franchi because it fit like a rem used to. Have been pleased with the white trash junk gun too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by willyworm View Post
    Out of curiosity spur, what model Remington put the nail in the coffin?

    I do agree modem 870's ain't what they used to be, same goes for 11-87/1100. I got say though this V3 I got a couple years ago has been a helluva firearm so far.

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    I have no dog in this fight but I noticed a difference in the late 1990's- early 2000. They have tried to build and compete in the low end market and it really shows. I know a guy who won a Remington 887 and it has been to the factory twice with less than a box of shells thru it. The 770 and 783 rifle line is junk, admittedly a few may shoot well but it's plastic junk that won't last a lifetime like a Model 700 or 7. Had a chance to pick up a 870 the other day really cheap and was browsing online looking for a 24" barrel. Midway or Natchez was running a sale but the feedback stated that multiple barrels had to be returned because the front bead was at a 45 degree angle instead of centered. Long story short their quality control sucks much worse than some other big names in the gun industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rp View Post
    Never have heard this.
    Yes, sir. I had a gold hunter that I bought right after they came out. I shot several thousand rounds through it, kept it cleaned, oiled, the whole spill. One day, it just quit shooting. I popped the trigger assembly out and a handful of plastic chunks fell out. I got my owner's manual out and called browning. As I described each piece to he technician he asked me " by chance have you been using Rem oil on the inside of the gun?" I replied that I had and he told me about the Teflon destroying the plastic. I stripped all the oil out of the receiver, installed the new parts, and shot the gun for years more with no problems. I guess it's possible the guy was feeding me a load of crap, but as soon as I described what happened he snapped off the Rem oil thing without me mentioning it, and he did tell me that Rem oil was great for the outside of guns, just not the innards, so I didn't really get a " I work for browning, so all Remington products suck" vibe

    Edit: I said it stopped shooting, it shot fine. It wouldn't eject or feed because of the pieces of plastic blocking the bolt from moving.
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    UPDATE: I cleaned it to the best of my ability with hopps all the way down to disassembling the bolt assembly took it outside upon reassembly and she still went click. I expected no less. I examined the firing pin and by my eye it looked fine. I dropped it off at gunsmith today. I’ll let you guys know what comes of it. All I can say is when I dropped it off I went and held a few higher end guns. I shot the versamax for 2 years because growing up my dad was a Remington man (he shot an old 1100 light 20, a 700 that he loaded 7mm Remington ultra mag and another 700 he loaded 22-250 for) and when I bought it I did hold guns within the same price range like stoger, berettas lower level auto, and a few more and the versamax shouldered really good for me so I brought it home. I shot kent faststeel out of this gun and every now and again a Nitro steel and the gun shot good and patterned good with the kicks full I had in it but every now and again For some reason it wouldn’t take a shell from the bottom and the chamber would be left open like it was out of shells. Maybe it’s my fault? I didnt clean it after every hunt but It did get cleaned every other hunt and I wasn’t really hard on it, I’m the guy that leaves his gun in the case until shooting time and puts it back in the case before getting up decoys. When I get it back from the gun smith it’ll either get put in the safe or it’ll get sold, I haven’t decided yet, but it won’t go back duck hunting. I’ve lost confidence in this gun completely, and I’m not going to let that loss of confidence impete my performance in key situations next season.

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    I’ve got a newer A5 that won’t eject 1 1/4 ounce loads. It will only eject 1 1/8 loads. I’m a black cloud believer after many seasons and this is the only shell I’ve tried in the A5. I’ve had too many issues with Kent shells. Explain this one...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pcole View Post
    Yes, sir. I had a gold hunter that I bought right after they came out. I shot several thousand rounds through it, kept it cleaned, oiled, the whole spill. One day, it just quit shooting. I popped the trigger assembly out and a handful of plastic chunks fell out. I got my owner's manual out and called browning. As I described each piece to he technician he asked me " by chance have you been using Rem oil on the inside of the gun?" I replied that I had and he told me about the Teflon destroying the plastic. I stripped all the oil out of the receiver, installed the new parts, and shot the gun for years more with no problems. I guess it's possible the guy was feeding me a load of crap, but as soon as I described what happened he snapped off the Rem oil thing without me mentioning it, and he did tell me that Rem oil was great for the outside of guns, just not the innards, so I didn't really get a " I work for browning, so all Remington products suck" vibe

    Edit: I said it stopped shooting, it shot fine. It wouldn't eject or feed because of the pieces of plastic blocking the bolt from moving.
    Maybe, but I doubt that it is the Teflon in the oil that is causing the problem. Teflon is pretty much inert unless heated significantly (think non-stick frying pans). The solvent may be an entirely different matter though. Solvents can play hell on various "plastics". The old Remoil did not do much in the form of lubrication or rust prevention anyway. Time will tell with the newer version. It does have real lubrication.

    BTW, I had the same problem with an older Super-X 1. One day it quit shooting. When I took out the trigger assembly, I got a handful of black plastic. All it was, was the bolt buffer at the rear of the receiver that had gotten hard and shattered after years of use. Got a new one installed and all was good. The Gold and the SX-2 may use a similar bolt buffer that will eventually need to be replaced.
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    Gunsmith replaced a gas piston and recoil spring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpottailSpecialist View Post
    Gunsmith replaced a gas piston and recoil spring.
    Did he test fire it? Was that the issue?


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    oh yeah, he did, and I shot skeet with it Monday, but I’ve catipulted this whole dibocle into a new shotgun with the woman so I’m taking advantage. Been trying to search around on here to see what is the best option, there should be plenty of threads on the subject but can’t find info I’m looking for. Trying to stay around 1200.
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