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**bbhntr48** · 01-09-2019, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by Stripa Swipa

I could care less about this wall. What fascinates me about you train riders that think it's the most important thing in the world right now is that we aren't concerned about the millions of illegals on our job sites today and doing something about that.

Proof is in the pudding, how many who run businesses on this site hire daily workers? Most laborers dont speak much english...
I have a nephew by marriage who runs a granite business and he was placed in a federal prison for 5 months awaiting being sent back to South Africa. He let his work Visa expire. He had been in country for 15 years, married with kids and ran a successful business for 12 years. Feds didnt cut him any slack. He had to go back and get another Visa and come back when approved. By the way, he supports buidling the wall

**Black Bart** · 01-09-2019, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by ziggy

so when we give the gov't money and they spend it on things we don't agree with, it's socialism. but if we give them money to spend it on something we agree with, it's conservatism?

i have no problem building a wall if mexico wants to pay for it, which is what trump campaigned on the entire '16 cycle. but to say that the new trade deal is going to somehow pay for it, is bullshit.

This, my friends, is what is referred to as objective, critical thinking.

**Fish** · 01-09-2019, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by Duckman#1

First things first cutting off the flow then take care of what’s here

Bo, he's NO WHERE near smart enough to connect those dots.

**Bigtimber2** · 01-09-2019, 06:45 PM

**Bigtimber2** · 01-09-2019, 06:47 PM

Buchanan dumbed down the threat of illegal immigrations years ago.

**SOUTHERN WOODS** · 01-09-2019, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by Fish

Bo, he's NO WHERE near smart enough to connect those dots.

It's so simple how can anyone not understand.

**FLS** · 01-10-2019, 07:56 AM

If we were serious, we would, punish the employers. Raid job sites. Seize their assets, put liens on their property. When the punishment is less profitable than breaking the law people will quit hiring them. If there are no jobs they won’t come. If bubba was threatened with losing his King Ranch, he’d double check that E verify. It will never happen because the construction industry, farming and processing depends on them and they have powerful lobbies. We just finished a big biogas project in Kenansville NC. 60 Hog houses and the only Gringos were our crew, the farmers, and their family.

**Stripa Swipa** · 01-10-2019, 08:04 AM

Close thread.

**Saltydog235** · 01-10-2019, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by FLS

If we were serious, we would, punish the employers. Raid job sites. Seize their assets, put liens on their property. When the punishment is less profitable than breaking the law people will quit hiring them. If there are no jobs they won’t come. If bubba was threatened with losing his King Ranch, he’d double check that E verify. It will never happen because the construction industry, farming and processing depends on them and they have powerful lobbies. We just finished a big biogas project in Kenansville NC. 60 Hog houses and the only Gringos were our crew, the farmers, and their family.

How many Americans of any ethninticity have you seen in the general labor pool in construction these days. Hell, I’ve had Latinos that wouldn’t work much less these shitbirds running around now. I’m back down to me and one other. Hard to grow a business when you can’t hire reliable, productive people even paying premium wages.

**Mars Bluff** · 01-10-2019, 09:10 AM

Yeah finding people who will work is getting harder & harder. They work hardest at getting their disability...

**Jozie & Me** · 01-10-2019, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by FLS

If we were serious, we would, punish the employers. Raid job sites. Seize their assets, put liens on their property. When the punishment is less profitable than breaking the law people will quit hiring them. If there are no jobs they won’t come. If bubba was threatened with losing his King Ranch, he’d double check that E verify. It will never happen because the construction industry, farming and processing depends on them and they have powerful lobbies. We just finished a big biogas project in Kenansville NC. 60 Hog houses and the only Gringos were our crew, the farmers, and their family.

They do, just not enough. They dont have enough enforcement agents.

I just finished an audit with the State of SC LLR for SC Immigration Law. We are also in a voluntary program with ICE / USCIS to come in an audit us at any time.

There are companies out there that are trying to do it right, but the field is stacked against us. We have competitors that use illegal subcontractors to compete against us every day. No work comp, no FUI, SUI, Liability ins. ACA etc. If I could cut my overhead by 40% i could make some serious cash. But I dont like the idea of a 10'x10' cell.

**Geetch** · 01-10-2019, 09:55 AM

The number and lack of cooperation of law enforcement is the issue in my mind. I mean if OSHA can catch and fine a company for having 10 mexicans on a roof not being tied off, why can't they partner with ICE and round them up, fine the company, and start making an example of a few.

**Geetch** · 01-10-2019, 10:26 AM

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**Glenn** · 01-10-2019, 10:50 AM

And while we're being distracted...

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

But keep chasing laser pointers and balls of yarn.

**Glenn** · 01-10-2019, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by Sportin' Woodies

If you were a jihadist suicide bomber on a watch list, how would you come to America?

On a plane like all the others have.

**Geetch** · 01-10-2019, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by Glenn

And while we're being distracted...

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

But keep chasing laser pointers and balls of yarn.

If I stroke a check for the $67k "Debt per citizen" amount, would I have to pay income taxes going forward?

**Steelin' Ducks** · 01-10-2019, 12:01 PM

What is the chance he is going to declare a state of emergency here in a little while when he gets to the border?

**Mars Bluff** · 01-10-2019, 12:07 PM

Dems & Repubs have tried to act like they wanted border security all the while making a half assed effort to secure it. They know Trump can stop this shit with a wall & they are scared shitless. Not sure why anyone would act surprised that he's going for it. That's what got him elected. The majority of people in this country want a damn wall & want these illegals to stop coming. We've seen the shit they bring & we've seen what has happened to Europe from their lax immigration laws. Any person against it wants to see America fall. Plain and simple.