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    So tell me more about this top sowing wheat deal for doves. I tried googling about it, but I didnt really find what type of seed I need to buy. Ive got a spot I can plant possibly. Can I just buy a bag or 2 of the feed wheat?
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    http://www.dnr.sc.gov/wildlife/dove/...vesLegally.pdf


    "If a field has been top sown with wheat, make sure it was planted according to Clemson Extension Service guidelines between October 1 and November 30 when evenly spread on a well-prepared seed bed established by heavy tilling."

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    yes, you may (but "seed" wheat more appropriate.)
    must be on a "properly prepared seed bed" meaning you have to have clean dirt.

    it explains that farming practices would consider covering it with an inch or so of dirt but that is not mandatory.

    you could just be broadcasting for erosion control, of course.
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    The "normal ag practice" calendar that DNR follows is Clemson's recommendations. They don't recommend it after October so you need to get it down today.

    I was told you are not supposed to put it down thicker than 75 lbs./acre, even though real farmers might go as high as 100 lbs./acre. A warden can count the number of seeds inside a specifically sized ring to determine if it's too thick. Not sure how that works after a rain that has washed all the seed into a rut.

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    In the past they were allowed to make the call if there was excessive wheat.. The guys that remember the era of legally baiting have this down.

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    PB--that pdf says Nov 30. so is it "illegal" to top sow wheat Nov 10th?
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    I'd talk to a local wheat farmer and plant the same. I'll give you a hint. It isn't 75 lbs an acre.

    Or open the pdf from Clemson. Just do a right click -> rotate clockwise to save your neck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2thDoc View Post
    PB--that pdf says Nov 30. so is it "illegal" to top sow wheat Nov 10th?
    You can spread wheat until 11/30
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    I’m thinking about doing it this Saturday if all the stars align
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    Just another point for discussion..... .

    If the doves eat all your wheat,....can you re cultivate the seed bed and replant?


    Can you cultivate different strips in the field for distributing the wheat at different intervals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palmetto Bug View Post
    The "normal ag practice" calendar that DNR follows is Clemson's recommendations. They don't recommend it after October so you need to get it down today.

    I was told you are not supposed to put it down thicker than 75 lbs./acre, even though real farmers might go as high as 100 lbs./acre. A warden can count the number of seeds inside a specifically sized ring to determine if it's too thick. Not sure how that works after a rain that has washed all the seed into a rut.
    Ahem...

    That was taken from DNR's website.

    Quote Originally Posted by Quack07 View Post
    http://www.dnr.sc.gov/wildlife/dove/...vesLegally.pdf


    "If a field has been top sown with wheat, make sure it was planted according to Clemson Extension Service guidelines between October 1 and November 30 when evenly spread on a well-prepared seed bed established by heavy tilling."

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    http://www.dnr.sc.gov/wildlife/dove/...vesLegally.pdf


    5. Wildlife Planting for Forage or Grain Production
    Oct. 1 – Nov. 30 (230 - 260 days)
    Drill 80 - 150 lbs/acre or evenly broadcast up to 200 lbs/ acre
    For optimal germination 1) cover seeds 1 – 1 inches with soil, or 2) evenly broadcast on well-prepared seedbed established with heavy tilling.
    • Intent: To produce vegetation (forage) or seeds from plantings to provide supplemental food for wildlife (not the planted seeds themselves). • Plant on well-prepared seedbed. • Soil test or 20 -50 lbs of nitrogen/acre and pH 5.8 -6.5. • Caution: Planting any earlier than November 1 for wheat may increase incidence of Hessianfly infestation.


    Can go as high as 200 lbs an acre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catdaddy View Post
    Just another point for discussion..... .


    Can you cultivate different strips in the field for distributing the wheat at different intervals?

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    I have never got clarification on that. I have never seen it written, so I have always wondered about that myself.

    Correction: I just found this, so I guess not:

    Practices Not Acceptable and Illegal

    1. Sowing seeds several times in succession on the same
    ground.


    But i guess it depends is the whole field “ground”. Or just the strip that is plowed up. I guess that would be the question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rem11-87 View Post
    I have never got clarification on that. I have never seen it written, so I have always wondered about that myself.

    Correction: I just found this, so I guess not:

    Practices Not Acceptable and Illegal

    1. Sowing seeds several times in succession on the same
    ground.


    But i guess it depends is the whole field “ground”. Or just the strip that is plowed up. I guess that would be the question.
    I would take that as it's illegal for multiple application on the same ground, however cultivating it back to clean dirt isn't "same ground".

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    How about if you use it to prevent soil erosion???
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    Quote Originally Posted by PBiz View Post
    How about if you use it to prevent soil erosion???
    I know there is an exclusion for erosion control on the banks of dirt mine/pits.

    I got my dates and seeding rates wrong. I was going with what the feed store expert told me. I may disc up some new strips and plant them.

    2th, you can top sow any time, you just cant hunt doves over it if it's outside the Clemson NAP guidelines.

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    Just sow it on the top of the ground!

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    Game warden said it’s 200 pounds an acre

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