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    Default SCE&G to lower Murray/release carp

    LAKE MURRAY, SC
    SCE&G plans to lower Lake Murray beginning in October to curb underwater plant growth and improve water quality.

    The plan, crafted by SCE&G and the South Carolina Department of Natural Resources, is to lower Lake Murray to about 350 feet elevation, about 7.5 feet lower than it is now. Water will be released into the lower Saluda River through the Saluda Hydro powerhouse beginning in early October.

    The lake should be returned to its normal level by next spring.

    Because of development on Lake Murray’s shoreline and runoff from agriculture, the shallow parts of the lake are ripe for underwater vegetation and algae to grow. This growth is normal and native, says DNR aquatic nuisance specialist Chris Page, but can be bothersome to people on the lake and can negatively affect water quality in the long term.

    By lowering water levels, “nuisance” plants such as southern naiad and slender pondweed, which create thick, matted clouds in the water, will dry up and stop growing temporarily.

    The result: Shallower swimming areas will be easier to wade in, boat propellers will have fewer tangles to churn through and burrowing fish can regain access to shoreline sands. Emptying the lake a little bit will also allow rains to wash sediment and “unwanted nutrients” to deeper parts of the lake.

    “We’re getting a double bang for our buck,” Page said.

    The plan was for the lake to be drawn down every three or four years, beginning in 2009, but that was delayed, Page said, in part by the permitting process and then by the flood of 2015. The last time Lake Murray was drawn down for water quality and vegetation issues was in 2002, Page said. Before that, there was a drawdown in 1996, according to SCE&G.

    This year’s drawdown will begin in October, and the lake will gradually drop to 350 elevation by mid-December, Page estimates. This drop will be incremental and should not affect houses downstream.

    Lake levels will stay down through the rest of December and into January to expose the weeds to sun, rain and colder weather. This timeline also leaves the lake at normal levels during the busy summer season.

    SCE&G officials overseeing the process say people can still use the lake once it is lowered, but they should take greater precaution in shallow areas, since those areas will not have hazard markers.

    DNR will also release in the fall 1,500 additional triploid grass carp fish into the lake to eat hydrilla, an aggressive, invasive species of aquatic weed that has afflicted South Carolina bodies of water for decades. Lake management officials try to keep at least 8,500 carp in the lake at all times.

    Although Page expects residents and visitors to bemoan the drawdown, he said it’s necessary for the continued health of the lake at a small cost in the short term.

    “There are drawbacks, there are positives, and we try to mitigate the negatives, but whatever we do, Mother Nature is still in charge,” he said.

    https://www.thestate.com/news/local/...217240035.html

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    They want a freaking bath tub.
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    Let's kill native grass. Makes sense. Depleting natural resources.
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    This makes me so mad I could drag an elk statue in the lake.
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    [QUOTE=JBK;2514448]This makes me so mad I could drag an elk statue in the lake.[QUOTE]

    I can send you his number. It’s all about the dollar.

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    Coot Nasty reported this over a month ago. It ain't gonna help. Somebody just needs a seawall built
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    It’s insanity.

    Our dept of natural resources is actively killing any SAV on our public lakes.
    Be proactive about improving public waterfowl habitat in South Carolina. It's not going to happen by itself, and our help is needed. We have the potential to winter thousands of waterfowl on public grounds if we fight for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOGSTER View Post
    It’s insanity.

    Our dept of natural resources is actively killing any SAV on our public lakes.
    Cui bono?


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    All this for "tangled up boat motors". Bullshit. Can anyone find an email address for Mr Chris Page?

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    His # is 803-755-2836
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    What I don’t understand is why all sportsmen across the state can’t band together to make a large enough voice to be heard about these issues. I care what’s going on in the national forests with burning and planting, not because it affects me personally but help to become one more voice. I care that Santee Cooper wants to kill all grass in Marion and Moultrie because I want to be one more voice in the fight against it. Now this is happening in my back yard and I want us to create enough noise to at least be heard. Bird watchers, fishermen, hunters, etc should all fight each and every one of these issues together to help each other but so many today will say that it isn’t their problem. Here they are saying openly that they are killing native vegetation and what are we doing? Nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ceddy View Post
    What I don’t understand is why all sportsmen across the state can’t band together to make a large enough voice to be heard about these issues. I care what’s going on in the national forests with burning and planting, not because it affects me personally but help to become one more voice. I care that Santee Cooper wants to kill all grass in Marion and Moultrie because I want to be one more voice in the fight against it. Now this is happening in my back yard and I want us to create enough noise to at least be heard. Bird watchers, fishermen, hunters, etc should all fight each and every one of these issues together to help each other but so many today will say that it isn’t their problem. Here they are saying openly that they are killing native vegetation and what are we doing? Nothing.
    Great post. My thoughts exactly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ceddy View Post
    What I don’t understand is why all sportsmen across the state can’t band together to make a large enough voice to be heard about these issues. I care what’s going on in the national forests with burning and planting, not because it affects me personally but help to become one more voice. I care that Santee Cooper wants to kill all grass in Marion and Moultrie because I want to be one more voice in the fight against it. Now this is happening in my back yard and I want us to create enough noise to at least be heard. Bird watchers, fishermen, hunters, etc should all fight each and every one of these issues together to help each other but so many today will say that it isn’t their problem. Here they are saying openly that they are killing native vegetation and what are we doing? Nothing.
    We fought this battle with Santee Cooper. Group organized and there would be 500 screaming so called sportsmen till it was time to put in the time and show up and there would be a handful show.
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    Ducks are not going to be allowed to hang up on bigwater reservoirs feasting on grass ever again in South Carolina. There is simply too much money riding on those ducks getting where they need to go...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JABIII View Post
    Ducks are not going to be allowed to hang up on bigwater reservoirs feasting on grass ever again in South Carolina. There is simply too much money riding on those ducks getting where they need to go...
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    Exactly Dwayne. I tried for years....

    At the end of the day, no body really cares.
    Be proactive about improving public waterfowl habitat in South Carolina. It's not going to happen by itself, and our help is needed. We have the potential to winter thousands of waterfowl on public grounds if we fight for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOGSTER View Post
    At the end of the day, no body really cares.
    There are those that say they do and there are those that do, sadly I find those that do are very few and very far between.
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    Do you have more money? Ok then, you lose.
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    2 things are important on lakes in SC. 1 is electricity and 2 is rich people with docks and boats.

    Grass breeds fish and ducks. Fish and ducks bring us peasants to these rich folks neighborhood.

    Jab had an excellent point I had not considered. If there’s grass to eat in the lakes then ducks don’t have to go to impoundments where they belong. Impoundment owners don’t want the competition. Starve the lake birds and they will visit corn ponds.

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    Too much money to fight it as I have been there. I did not waste my time though
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