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    i always thought it went something like this, but i could be way off base.
    i am trying to understand and do not know the correct terminology.

    so you tell Uncle Sam "I have 1,000 acres and would like to put an easement on it to remain together as one tract and be forever protected from development." Then ???.gov would come check it out and say sure, you are entitled to $X per acre to make the necessary repairs on infrastructure. after everthing is up to Unc's standards, your land would become a trust owned by you and could be handed down for generations or sold but the easement remains. However the tax value of the property would also be reduced because of the sale value reduction.

    Therefore to the landowner, this is a great deal, in that .gov assists on the quality of his land.
    - however if he or his decendants decide to sell, the parcel must be sold as a whole and the easement remains intact into perpetuity. making the sale value of the property less than market due to the development limitations that are upon the buyer.


    can anybody tell me if my understanding of this is way off base or if it is spot on?


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    So many people on here do not understand CEs but claim to. Typical SCDucks. Cali is right about the ACE Basin. Thank goodness those folks had some foresight in the 80s.

    Double sprig you are combining CEs and NRCS work and creating your own thing. You aren't even in left field.
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    Can the tax break be sold or transferred to another entity??



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    Quote Originally Posted by flopduster View Post
    Can the tax break be sold or transferred to another entity??



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    Quote Originally Posted by Calibogue View Post
    Yes, I believe the protection of rural and critical lands is SC is of utmost importance!
    I also believe all of us are fortunate so many acres jave been protected in perpetuity from development.
    You may not see it but I assure you you grandchildren will
    ACE Basin is solely wjat it is today because of CE's......it could and would have been one developed barrier island on top of another!
    There is no way to ompare row crop land in the middle of nowhere to land within the ACE basin or Black River corridor. As I said, there are areas in SC that have no doubt been saved via the CE. My point is that there has also been a lot of tax payer money wasted on properties don't fit the bill. Again, this is my opinion, we may just agree to disagree and there's nothing wrong with that.
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    I think y'all are overlooking the whole point of this thread being started. Some fuckstick "lost" millions of tax payer dollars and is retiring from a 97k a year job after 15 years and y'all are arguing over conservation easements. It's pretty damn fishy to me and I think what MC was getting at is this not surprising in the least because we live in a pretty fucked up corrupt country.

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    I started it because I was beginning to think it wasn't going to be talked about. I believe the Landtrust has done good things, and I would like to see it go on. It's work has affected many of us as sportsmen.

    I cannot comment on the wrong doings or what went on because I don't know enough about it.

    I don't get political on here, never really have.

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    I'm not wild about the program because there can be abuses, but that is true about most any program. Rich or not rich it does't matter to me, saving habitat is never a bad thing.....unless it involves pine trees! ROFLMAO!
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    Not saving longleaf pine is the reason we've seen so many species decline.....hoss.
    Be proactive about improving public waterfowl habitat in South Carolina. It's not going to happen by itself, and our help is needed. We have the potential to winter thousands of waterfowl on public grounds if we fight for it.

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    I haven't read all this, but a simple solution is to make a pile of money, buy a pile of land, and put yours in an conservation easement too.
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    I am a member of Lowcountry Open Land Trust for a reason.... I believe it is vital to protect these lands , even if it is wealthy having the legal fees to do so su subsidized.... but by non-profits, not governments
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    Quote Originally Posted by jws View Post
    I think y'all are overlooking the whole point of this thread being started. Some fuckstick "lost" millions of tax payer dollars and is retiring from a 97k a year job after 15 years and y'all are arguing over conservation easements. It's pretty damn fishy to me and I think what MC was getting at is this not surprising in the least because we live in a pretty fucked up corrupt country.
    Thank you. This is the third thread today I felt like I was the only one that read the initial article.

    I don't understand how the bank works but I was wondering why this and NRCS did the same thing. Glad Doug addressed that.

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    I’m all for conservation but there has been some shady stuff going on up there for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swampknob View Post
    Not to mention in most cases it depreciates the value of the land depending on the restrictions.
    Quote Originally Posted by BOGSTER View Post
    Not saving longleaf pine is the reason we've seen so many species decline.....hoss.
    Along the original subject... We harvested the loblollyo on our farm and replanted long-leaf with the help of the long-leaf alliance. Again non-profits are the ones who should be running these programs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawhoo View Post
    Along the original subject... We harvested the loblollyon out farm and replanted long-leaf with the help of the long-leaf alliance. Again non-profits are the ones who should be running these programs.
    But that wasnt the conservation bank, was it? That sounds like that was through NRCS.

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    What's the big deal? SCEG and SanteeCooper just stoled billions of dollars from y'all . One is owned by the State and the government.

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    Dawhoo - I'm happy to hear it.

    Makes me smile every time I ride by a longleaf habitat.

    Maybe one day we can work on an eastern diamondback re-introduction to these properties.
    Be proactive about improving public waterfowl habitat in South Carolina. It's not going to happen by itself, and our help is needed. We have the potential to winter thousands of waterfowl on public grounds if we fight for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOGSTER View Post
    Dawhoo - I'm happy to hear it.

    Makes me smile every time I ride by a longleaf habitat.

    Maybe one day we can work on an eastern diamondback re-introduction to these properties.
    We need to convince the animal lovers that they thrive in long leaf forest.

    Some of the best wild quail hunts I have been on, were properties managed for woodpeckers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timsmith View Post
    What's the big deal? SCEG and SanteeCooper just stoled billions of dollars from y'all . One is owned by the State and the government.
    I suppose you didn't read my comment earlier? Wrong is wrong, no matter how you cut it

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