DUI on a boat

[Greeny]

A cash cow? How about the legal limit of the normal average joe's abilities are affected at 0.08% BA level? Professional drinkers can function "normally" at greater than 0.08% BA level, but most people cannot. It's simple, if you've been drinking, don't get behind the wheel of a car or the helm of a boat. Is it that hard to fathom? It's not worth it.

[Geetch]

I see the MADD propaganda machine has worked on you.

Please give me the source of your statement regarding the impairment of a .08% blood alcohol level on the average person. I'd like to see the data. While you're at it, please also find the studies that show the breakdown of DUI accidents by blood alcohol level. I'd wager most are higher than .08%.

Don't get me wrong, I think DUI is a bad thing, but I just don't think .08% should be the limit. Oh, that's another study that you can find for me. How has the .08% level impacted DUI related deaths? How much more revenue has the .08% level raised for municipalities?

I could go on, but that should keep you busy for a while.

[B.S.D.]

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[Greeny]

Originally posted by Geetch:
I see the MADD propaganda machine has worked on you.

Please give me the source of your statement regarding the impairment of a .08% blood alcohol level on the average person. I'd like to see the data. While you're at it, please also find the studies that show the breakdown of DUI accidents by blood alcohol level. I'd wager most are higher than .08%.

Don't get me wrong, I think DUI is a bad thing, but I just don't think .08% should be the limit. Oh, that's another study that you can find for me. How has the .08% level impacted DUI related deaths? How much more revenue has the .08% level raised for municipalities?

I could go on, but that should keep you busy for a while.

No, it's called having worked in law enforcement in the past and having witnessed people blow anywhere from a 0.03% (who was totally trashed by her standards) to a 0.45% and by all accounts, that idiot should've been dead. Do you think the municipalities get to keep all the revenues? You're kidding yourself. The state takes a large portion of any and all fees relating to infractions of the law whether they be traffic related or other laws.

But you can go here http://www.scdps.org/ohs/2002fb/Part...2_FactBook.pdf to see some numbers or here http://www.scdps.org/ohs/2003fb/Part...20FactBook.pdf to see the breakdown of blood alcohol levels with levels of impairment.

The statute for DUI is SECTION 56-5-2930. Operating motor vehicle while under influence of alcohol or drugs.

It is unlawful for a person to drive a motor vehicle within this State while:

(1) under the influence of alcohol to the extent that the person's faculties to drive are materially and appreciably impaired;

(2) under the influence of any other drug or a combination of other drugs or substances which cause impairment to the extent that the person's faculties to drive are materially and appreciably impaired; or

(3) under the combined influence of alcohol and any other drug or drugs or substances which cause impairment to the extent that the person's faculties to drive are materially and appreciably impaired.

[Turd Ferguson]

Dont drink and Drive you might spill your.....DAMNNNNIT

[Geetch]

I figured you were a cop by your responses.

Good data though. Thanks. That's what I wanted to see. I don't agree with it, but it's interesting to read.

[Greeny]

Was at one time

[tradorion]

THe decision to make the initial charge is somewhat subjective. But that subjectivity is based on solid training in judging field sobriety.

Drinking is like any other bell curve- there are a few lightweights (i'm one) that are loopy with 3beers and there are a few heavyweights who function perfectly fine with a case in them... but for the most part the middle folks have similar reactions to similar amounts of alcohol.


DUI or BUI always amazes me because so many people feel they have some sort of "right" to operate a vessel or vehicle in such a way as to endanger other people- what about the sober folks rights??

The real simple easy solution is either have a Designated Driver- or don't fucking drink. The middle ground is to realize that you can have a social beverage without catching a buzz... but if you feel anyting close to a buzz i'd bet (if you're the average person) that you are already legally impaired.

T

[justpracticin]

Originally posted by tradorion:
solid training in judging field sobriety.

T

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Do co-ed's count? Many people could be experts.

[tradorion]

I would hazard a guess that MANY ? decent ? young men would consider themselves experts in field judging the proper level of sobriety (just drunk enough to... but not so drunk as to... [img]graemlins/lol.gif[/img] ) of a young lady without any formal training.

Why is it so hard to believe that a cop with formal training can do it for a driver???

T

[justpracticin]

FST's are so over-rated it is laughable. 'specially w/ them blue lights all around and the short guy with the flashlight pointing it in your eyes.

[justpracticin]

Originally posted by tradorion:
Why is it so hard to believe that a cop with formal training can do it for a driver???

T

They are both out for the same thing . . .

[Tater]

Originally posted by justpracticin:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by tradorion:
Why is it so hard to believe that a cop with formal training can do it for a driver???

T

They are both out for the same thing . . . </font>[/QUOTE]God knows I hate to take sides with an attorney, but that's fucking funny as hell!!!

[Joe]

Overated, maybe, but you can't fake the eyes, HGN. The ABC, yea, the line, likely, but not the eyes.....

Originally posted by justpracticin:
FST's are so over-rated it is laughable. 'specially w/ them blue lights all around and the short guy with the flashlight pointing it in your eyes.

[justpracticin]

HGN is not an exact science. It's entirely too subjective, and the first really really rich DUI client I get, I'll prove it.

[QuackQuackBlast]

I used to think BUI was the most absurd rule ever...drinkin on the water, not like you can run off the road or anything. Well, Friday night while runnin down the cooper (on the edge, not middle) to do some gigging, I noticed a dark shadow less than a 100 yds off the bow of my boat. I reached down to turn on my headlights (not running lights, those were on) and before I could reach the toggle switch, a 21ft or better blue and white boat passed us within 20 feet. He was wide open, not a single light on the boat and no concern for us...fear is an emotion I fully understand now and I have a new respect for the BUI regs. It opened my eyes and thought maybe if I shared, it may save someone else...good luck, be careful.