The "Flag"

[southerngent]

Been all over the news and social media today...re-opening negotiations about the placement of the flag at the state house. Any opinions on that? Or are we not talking about it here? Apologize in advance if I just missed the thread.

[hunting_jim]

That flag had nothing to do with the shooting.

[Whitetail Widowmaker]

That's the biggest crock of shit I've heard of. The flag was on a license plate of a racist nut job that killed people. If that means the flag stands for racism.... Oh this shit makes my blood boil. With all the media attention on this subject, I'm sure they will be catered to!

[southerngent]

I concur that the flag flying at the confederate memorial at the state house probably had nothing to do with the shooting. However, that crazy little bastard had the confederate battle flag on the front of his car, so now the flag and our state are in the national spotlight again.

[Cottontop74]

As part of the deal to take it out of chambers and off the dome, the flag is part of the monument and cannot be removed. People can discuss this all they want....there are laws that protect monuments so the flag is there to stay in its state of reverence.

[CUAngler]

There is a negative connotation that has been steadily growing with the flag of late. Probably getting time to readdress the issue.

[southerngent]

2/3 majority to remove it, correct?

[Duck cutter]

I hope it keeps flying.

[Cottontop74]

2/3 majority to remove it, correct?

Nope. It's protected.

[nitro5x6's]

Heritage, not hate.

[wooddrow]

Nope. It's protected.

I thought it was 2/3 in the house, 2/3 in the senate, and 2/3 vote in a joint assembly?

[rocketman]

Pretty sure it's 2/3 in the house, 2/3 in the senate, and 2/3 vote in a joint assembly. But I may be wrong.

This is what the news stated before I left the house for work, or something very similar to that

[Duck cutter]

Heritage, not hate.

nailed it

[Duck Tape]

It cannot be addressed until Jan 2016 but expect all presidential candidates to be expected to weigh in.

It would be hard for a republican presidential candidate to win SC if the say it should be removed and difficult to win in a general election if they say it should stay.

It is the proverbial box. You lose either way.

[Cottontop74]

DT...I thought historical landmarks and monuments were protected forever once they are declared?

[Bad Habit]

Heritage- not Hate, my flag is on my truck and on my body, and my black friends understand.

[southerngent]

Heritage, not hate.

As a native South Carolinian who has ancestors that came to SC from England via Barbados and has several other not quite as distant ancestors who fought in the war of northern agression, I agree with you. However, to a segment of the population the flag represents bigotry/slavery/racism.

[Joe Krasko]

Honor and respect my heritage and I will honor and respect yours.
It's a losing battle, too many hate groups have dishonored the "Stars and Bars". Folks today really don't understand, I mean how many people alive today can say they even knew a Confederate Veteran. How many folks really know why young men died in battle defending that flag? There is so much disrespect out there that most folks don't give a shit what happened in 1863. The only true hatred I grew up with was the hatred of a Yankee. I grew up around Black folks, ate supper with them, went swimming and hunted with them. Snuck cigarettes and beer from our folks together. There was no hatred whatsoever in out hearts for one another. Things have changed drastically since then.

[SOUTHERN WOODS]

However, to a segment of the population the flag represents bigotry/slavery/racism.

If it wasn't the flag it would be something else. Most people that cry racism are just looking for a reason to cry and whine about something. That is how Al and Jesse stay in the public eye.

Slavery ended in 1865 and I can guarantee you that most can't even tell you what amendment to the Constitution ratified it.

There will always be bigots no certain race has got a corner on em'.

[Sportin' Woodies]

Slavery ended in 1863. It was ended to weaken the south. 90% of confederate soldiers didn't own a slave. I doubt 9 guys were fighting so the one rich guy could keep his slaves. Our state did not secede because "we wanted to keep our slaves". The north invaded. For money. And jealousy. Hate groups also use the cross. I hate seeing the southern flag bastardized by skinheads and other white trash. The brave men that fought for independence were no different from those fighting the British. Heroes. Heroes that are rolling over in their graves every time they're compared to nazis etc. it's all disgusting.

And slavery was on its way out with or without a northern invasion.