Pod poll

[CAJUN LAB]

http://www.pods.com/

[Tee]

Based on what Trent was posting earlier this week, it is already legal on private land in SC. I haven't done any research to confirm or deby. Maybe DT is pushing legislation to make it illegal. Perhaps he actually wants to know what outdoorsment think before doing anything.

They are Illegal everywhere, per Charles Ruth

[pee dee]

They are Illegal everywhere, per Charles Ruth

I will say it again...if it was illegal....it sure was never enforced by gw's. I also do not believe most would have even had an opinion on the issue until the past couple of weeks. I have not looked it up, but just from what I have been told...why is it specified that they are illegal on public land with nothing about private property? Lawyers? I'd just like to know the legal reasoning behind that.

[pee dee]

I will say it again...if it was illegal....it sure was never enforced by gw's. I also do not believe most would have even had an opinion on the issue until the past couple of weeks. I have not looked it up, but just from what I have been told...why is it specified that they are illegal on public land with nothing about private property? Lawyers? I'd just like to know the legal reasoning behind that.

Somebody explain

[Timberman22]

I have no business commenting on this pole since I'm a "lead slinger" myself......but one's got to ask himself do I stoop to poisoning the animal I'm after or wait for the perfect shot like it should be done? I damn sure wouldn't brag about killing an animal with a chemical induced component, it kinda takes away the "hunt and skill" if you want to know the truth.

[jwilliams]

Personally feel you ought to go back to being a gun bunny if you need to use pods. Just a personal opinion though.

[Glenn]

First crossbows and now pods.

Lovely.

[LabLuvR]

Yep, lets just eliminate the word hunting from the dictionary as it apparently has no place any more. Instead we could use the words:

Instant gratification
Laziness
Blood lust

[badfaulkner]

Yep, lets just eliminate the word hunting from the dictionary as it apparently has no place any more. Instead we could use the words:

Instant gratification
Laziness
Blood lust

Lab, this isn't meant to flame you. Honest.

I'm no purist. But I just want to point out that if I remember correctly, you shot two jakes over your chufa patch in April.

I have no problem with that. But wouldn't a great many turkey hunters consider that "instant gratification, laziness, and blood lust?"

I've never had the pleasure of hunting gobblers over chufas, wheat, or oats, etc...but several turkey poets I know think it is as close to a slam dunk as you can get legally in SC.

Now, I reiterate...I'm no poet. But I am for a safe, quick, and humane kill. So power to you in your chufa jake killing.

I'm against defining what "a real hunter" uses as tactics or a weapon if its legal where he hunts. I have my own shortcomings and am "handicapped" in many ways* and need advantages in the woods over my quarry. I am not in competition with anyone but that quarry. I feel no need to judge other hunters. One of the smartest thing BigTimber2 ever wrote was we as hunters are NOT in competition with each other.** If we think we are, we've missed the point of the woods and water all together and are bound to be purse-lipped prudes who act like our shorts are too tight.


* handicaps: I'm geographically retarded and could get lost in a phone booth even with a GPS. I'm completely deaf in one ear and cannot tell the direction of sound. Even thunder. Even with my glasses I have to look and look and look to see game.

** we are in competition to a certain extent on public land; hence, why I hate publicly posting information. But...I have no doubt anyone with moderate hunt savvy and was free from my "handicaps" could do better with "my" WMA spots.

[Duck Tape]

I was curious what a poll would show since there is a possibility the issue could arise in the legislature. I doubt anyone could pass legislation to make this illegal, if it is illegal now. I have a call in to get clarification. At a minimum I want the public to know the law.

My limited bow hunting was with a recurve. My brother hunts with a recurve and hand knapped arrows. My sons hunt trophy bucks or does with a compound. Wounding and or not finding deer has been an issue. No pods in my house.

When lead was made illegal we were forced to use steel. The waterfowl industry switched to 3.5 inches to try and regain our previous lethal distances. Now we have heavyshot, supersonic steel, and 3.5 inch chambers. None of these changes was so we could wound more. Our goal has always been to retrieve the duck.

There will always be an effective range with any weapon and those who will push the limits. I am trying to understand why a pod is unethical if it actually increases retrieval of the deer. I admit, it seems a bit weird but unethical???

Is it more ethical for a deer to die a slow death or not be found?

[BigBrother]

Is it more ethical for a deer to die a slow death or not be found?

This was my take when the issue came up the other day.

Again, sprig dog and sprig dog alone changed my opinion when he talked about hail mary's.

[pee dee]

This was my take when the issue came up the other day.

Again, sprig dog and sprig dog alone changed my opinion when he talked about hail mary's.

I just don't believe you can let ones misuse of a weapon change your opinion on the weapon..on the person...but not the weapon.

[Glenn]

I am trying to understand why a pod is unethical if it actually increases retrieval of the deer. I admit, it seems a bit weird but unethical???

Is it more ethical for a deer to die a slow death or not be found?

You're going to have to show me hard data that it increases recovery and not just Hey Bo's observational data cuz his cousin Cooter and cronies have used them for years.

They guys I have known that used them were all outlaws. Roughians of the worst sort and no one you would want to be associated with much less hunt with. That put a bad taste in my mouth over the issue and I've not met anyone or heard any arguments in 30+ years of bowhunting to change my mind.

[Hoggin]

I was curious what a poll would show since there is a possibility the issue could arise in the legislature. I doubt anyone could pass legislation to make this illegal, if it is illegal now. I have a call in to get clarification. At a minimum I want the public to know the law.

My limited bow hunting was with a recurve. My brother hunts with a recurve and hand knapped arrows. My sons hunt trophy bucks or does with a compound. Wounding and or not finding deer has been an issue. No pods in my house.

When lead was made illegal we were forced to use steel. The waterfowl industry switched to 3.5 inches to try and regain our previous lethal distances. Now we have heavyshot, supersonic steel, and 3.5 inch chambers. None of these changes was so we could wound more. Our goal has always been to retrieve the duck.

There will always be an effective range with any weapon and those who will push the limits. I am trying to understand why a pod is unethical if it actually increases retrieval of the deer. I admit, it seems a bit weird but unethical???

Is it more ethical for a deer to die a slow death or not be found?

What is ethical is to know the limitations of your weapon and also those of yourself with that weapon. Bowhunting takes an incredible amount of discipline if anyone plans to be worth a shit at it. PRACTICE PRACTICE and then MORE PRACTICE. in addition taking shots that are high percentage kill shots, such as broadside or quartered away. A person cant fling a few arrows at a 20 yd target then go out and try to kill a deer at 35. Patience and Practice are key. I think Badfaulkner said that he has been passing deer for 5 years because the shots werent there. My hats off to him for the patience. Modern archery equipment is incredibly lethal in the right hands. But so many lose deer because they rush or try to make a shot that just wasnt there. If someone needs a poison tipped arrow then they need to put their bow away and pick up a gun, or go fuck themselves. The latter would be better.

[trentsmith]

Some of y'all are idiots.

[trkykilr]

I shot them 20 years ago, when I started bowhunting at 14. The rednecks we hunted with thought that was the way to go. I used them to take bad shots, as I really didnt know any better. They work, but I was scared to death of them. I haven't seen one in a long time, but I'd bet I could dig around my dad's house and find one.

[BigBrother]

I would have had no opinion on the matter, and wouldnt have seen the harm in it until sprigdog spoke up on them the other week.

This lead slinger voted in my appropriate toggle point

[trentsmith]

Sprigdog is a loser. Don't listen to him.

[BigBrother]

I've hunted with sprigdog several times, and consider him a friend.

I dont hunt twice with folks I consider losers. He is quite possibly one of the most accomplished killers on this forum.

[Highstrung]

Bow Hunters are in self destruct mode.