Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 33

Thread: Increase Testosterone

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    5,134

    Default Increase Testosterone

    Just got physical and my levels are closer to the low end of normal than I am comfortable with. Nothing that concerns the doc, but obviously I'd like them higher. I'm thinking it may be due to being injured, riding the couch for 3 months and eating garbage. Going to have it rechecked in 90 days, but wanted to see if anyone knows of any natural ways to boost test.

    Here is any article I found, and am doing most on there. The personal products was interesting, I will need to make some changes there.

    http://www.artofmanliness.com/2013/0...one-naturally/

    Testosterone Week: How I Doubled My Testosterone Levels Naturally and You Can Too

    by Brett on January 18, 2013 · 210 comments
    in Health & Sports, Wellness

    At last we’ve reached the final post of Testosterone Week and based on the comments from you all, this is the post you’ve been most looking forward to. Today I’m going to share what I did during my 90-day experiment in order to double my total and free testosterone levels.
    I’m afraid I have no super cool “secrets” to share and there are no easy shortcuts to increasing your T. If you were expecting some magical potion or supplement or weird body hack that will instantly and naturally increase your T levels, what follows is bound to disappoint. Despite what some companies or websites might tell you, there’s no single thing that will boost your testosterone naturally for the long term.
    The unsexy truth is that increasing testosterone naturally simply comes down to making some long-term changes in your diet and lifestyle. As you’ll see, what I did to increase T largely boils down to eating better, exercising smarter, and getting more sleep. That’s pretty much it. But as with most things in life, the devil is in the details, so I’ll share with you exactly what I did and provide research that explains why the things I did helped boost my testosterone.
    The good news here is that while the things I recommend below will boost your T, their effect is hardly limited to testosterone. They’ll greatly increase your overall health and well-being at the same time.
    Ready to get started?
    The Obligatory Disclaimer
    While I do have a pretty manly mustache, I’m not a doctor or a medical expert. I’m a guy with a law degree he’s never used who blogs about manliness. What I’m about to share shouldn’t be taken as a substitute for qualified medical expertise. It’s simply my experience and views on the subject. Before you make any changes in lifestyle or diet, talk to your doctor or healthcare provider. Be smart.
    My 90-Day Testosterone Experiment

    Let’s do a quick review of what I shared in the introduction to this series. August of last year was a tough month for me, primarily because of a huge and grueling project we were in the midst of here on the site. I was stressed out and my sleeping, healthy eating habits, and workout regimen all suffered. At the end of the month I got my testosterone levels tested and found that my total T was 383 ng/dL and my free T was 7.2 pg/mL – close to the average for an 85-100-year-old man.
    I then began a 90-day experiment to see how diet and lifestyle changes could boost that number.
    The reason I started the experiment at that point is because I know a lot of guys who live my last-August lifestyle all the time, and I wanted to see what would happen to an “average” guy who turned things around. At the same time, there was no “normal” time in my life which would have been better for me to start the experiment. My stress level and diet fluctuates throughout the year anyway, so at any point, factors in my current lifestyle would have influenced the results. I wanted to begin at “ground zero.”
    After 90 days, I had my testosterone tested again. My total T had gone up to 778 ng/dL and my free T had risen to 14.4 pg/mL. I had doubled my testosterone.
    I know the experiment didn’t simply bring me back to my pre-August levels because of the fact that when I learned that the original test I took can sometimes overestimate your T levels, I took a more accurate test around four months after the start of the experiment (I’ve continued the lifestyle changes made during the experiment) and my total T had gone up again to 826.9 ng/dL.
    If you’re already healthy, making the changes I list below will probably not double your T levels. But if you’re starting at ground zero, then you should see pretty dramatic results.
    Alright, with that all out of the way, let’s talk about exactly what I did to double my T levels in 90 days.
    Diet

    Our diet plays a huge role in our testosterone production. Our glands need certain minerals — like zinc and magnesium — to get testosterone production started and our Leydig cells need cholesterol to make testosterone. Some foods — like broccoli, cauliflower, and cabbage — can help boost T levels by removing estrogens in our body that lower our T.
    The biggest change I made to my diet was increasing my fat and cholesterol intake. There’s a reason why old school strong men would drink raw eggs — studies have suggested that higher fat and cholesterol consumption results in increased levels of total T; men eating low-fat diets typically have decreased testosterone levels. The emphasis on increasing fat and cholesterol consumption meant I got to eat like [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhDHui1BZYA"]Ron Swanson[/ame] for three months — bacon and eggs and steak was pretty much the staple of my diet.
    But you might be asking, “Isn’t cholesterol bad for you? Doesn’t it cause heart disease?”
    Answer: It’s complicated.
    I don’t have enough time or space to cover the ins and outs of cholesterol in this post, but overall, research is showing that popular beliefs about cholesterol aren’t completely correct and the public shouldn’t be as afraid of this molecule as it is.
    If you’re interested in learning more about the myths and benefits of cholesterol, I highly recommend reading these in-depth, well-written, and well-researched articles at Mark’s Daily Apple:
    For those interested, at the end of this section, I share my cholesterol and triglyceride levels after more than four months of eating copious amounts of bacon, eggs, meat, and nuts.
    Now here’s a breakdown of what I ate at each meal:
    Breakfast – [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DleceyAO34M"]“Give Me All the Bacon and Eggs You Have”[/ame]

    During the weekdays, I ate what I called the “Ron Swanson Special” — three slices of bacon and three whole eggs. Aside from being delicious, it also provided the fats and cholesterol my body needed to make testosterone. Nitrates freak me out, so I used nitrate-free bacon.
    On Saturday mornings, Gus and I went to Braum’s — pancakes for Gus; breakfast burrito for me. That’s one of our father/son traditions.
    Sundays I typically skipped breakfast – I usually just wasn’t hungry.
    Lunch – The Man Salad

    I know [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOF6Jc-dSxc"]Swanson wouldn’t approve[/ame], but for lunch each weekday (and sometimes on Saturday) I ate a salad. But it wasn’t just any salad, it was a Man Salad damnit! I packed as many T-boosting foods as I could into this thing.
    • Spinach/Spring Salad Mix. This was the base of my salad. I used Organic Girl Greens from Whole Foods. Yeah, I know. The base of my Man Salad came from a company called Organic Girl. Spinach and other leafy green vegetables contain minerals like magnesium and zinc, which have been shown to aid in testosterone production (study on magnesium, and another; study on zinc)
    • Meat. Meat, particularly beef, provides our bodies with the protein it needs to create muscle (more muscle = more T) and the fats and cholesterol to make testosterone. My meat topping of choice was sliced up chuck steak. I grilled two of them on Monday and it lasted me until the next Monday. Every now and then I’d slow-cook some ribs or brisket to use as my meat topping. My philosophy was the fattier, the better.
    • Nuts. Usually a handful of Brazil nuts or walnuts. Nuts are little fat bombs that provide the cholesterol that Leydig cells need for T production. One study suggest that the selenium in Brazil nuts boosts testosterone. Just don’t go crazy with them. Too much selenium is no bueno.
    • Avocado/Olives. Avocados and olives are a great source of the good fats we need for healthy testosterone production.
    • Broccoli. Every now and then I’d throw some broccoli into the salad. Broccoli contains high levels of indoles, a food compound that has been shown to reduce the bad estrogen in our bodies that sap testosterone levels.
    • Olive Oil. I topped my Man Salad off with lots of olive oil. Research suggests that olive oil helps your Leydig cells (which produce testosterone) absorb cholesterol better. And as I’ve mentioned a few times, our Leydig cells need cholesterol to make T. More cholesterol absorption = more testosterone.
    • Balsamic Vinegar. Mostly for taste. It’s also supposed to help keep your insulin in check.
    I bought most of the ingredients for my Testosterone Salad at Whole Foods. For those curious, I added up all the ingredients and divided by six (I typically ate six of these salads in a week). The cost per salad was roughly $5. That’s about the price many folks pay every day for a crappy fast food meal. If you’re on a budget, I’m sure you could get the ingredients at Walmart and bring the cost per salad down even more.
    This is what I ate for breakfast and lunch almost every single weekday during my 90-day experiment, and it’s what I continue to eat every weekday more than four months after my experiment began. And I don’t mind at all. I guess I am a pretty boring dude.
    Snacks
    During the day I tried to snack on testosterone-healthy foods like nuts, pumpkin seeds, and broccoli. I’d throw in some dark chocolate every now and then too.
    An added testosterone benefit of my high fat and balanced protein and carb diet was that it probably helped me lose some body fat (I went from 18% to 12% body fat). Studies show that high fat diets actually contribute to increased body fat loss. And as we discussed earlier, as you lose body fat, your T production ramps up. Virtuous cycle for the win!
    Dinner – Whatever (in moderation)
    I just ate what the family was having: chili, chicken and rice, enchiladas. Whatever. I wasn’t worried too much about carbs. I just watched my portions and tried to stop eating as soon I was full.
    With the exception of increasing my fat and cholesterol intake, my diet wasn’t that unconventional. I didn’t follow a strictly low-carb or Paleo diet because recent research has suggested that a diet high in protein and low in carbs actually causes T levels to decrease. With that said, I was judicious with the carbs. I tried to get most of my carbs from veggies and fruit, but I didn’t freak out if my wife made us spaghetti for dinner.
    I tried to be really strict with my diet during the week and relaxed it on the weekends. Life’s short. I want to be able enjoy a Triple Stack Sandwich or taquito from QuikTrip every now and then.
    I’m a lifelong teetotaler, so alcohol wasn’t on the menu. Some studies have shown that beer can lower your T levels in a few ways, but I imagine it would be fine as a weekend indulgence.
    Obviously, you don’t have to follow my exact meal plan. The goal is simply to eat more high-fat foods.
    Egads! What did all that eggs and steak do to your cholesterol levels?
    I was curious what my cholesterol levels would be after following a diet high in cholesterol and saturated fat, so I got a full lipid screening a little more than four months after I began my experiment. Here are the results:
    • Total Cholesterol: 202 mg/dL (Just barely out of the desirable range of < 200 mg/dL.)
    • HDL Cholesterol (“Good” Cholesterol): 77 mg/dL (Optimal range is > 60 mg/dL — my HDL levels were great!)
    • LDL Cholesterol (“Bad” Cholesterol): 112 mg/dL (This put me in the near or above optimal range of 100-129 mg/dL.)
    • Triglycerides: 65 mg/dL (< 150 mg/dL is considered normal; < 100 mg/dL is optimal — mine were downright stellar.)
    Looking at the raw numbers, overall my lipid screening was pretty dang awesome.
    Total cholesterol was a bit high, but most doctors agree that total cholesterol isn’t a good indicator of heart disease risk.
    Things get more interesting when you look at the ratios that doctors use to determine a patient’s risk for heart disease.
    • Total cholesterol/HDL Ratio: 2.6:1 (Normal is < 5:1; optimal is < 3.5:1. Mine was optimal.)
    • LDL/HDL Ratio: .68:1 (Normal is > .3:1; optimal > .4:1. Mine was optimal.)
    • Triglycerides/HDL Ratio: .84:1 (Optimal is < 2:1. Mine was optimal.)
    So despite pounding back bacon, eggs, whole milk, and steak for four months, I still had healthy cholesterol levels.
    Supplements

    Sadly, many guys think they can just pop a few “natural enhancers” and their T levels will magically increase. If you’re eating garbage, not exercising, and not getting enough sleep, no amount of supplements is going to help your testosterone levels reach optimal levels.
    With that said, I did include some nutritional supplementation in my experiment. Here’s what I used:
    • Vitamin D3. Vitamin D3 actually isn’t a vitamin, it’s a hormone — a really important hormone that provides a whole host of health benefits. Our bodies can naturally make vitamin D from the sun, but recent studies have shown that many Westerners are vitamin D3 deprived because we’re spending less and less time outdoors. When we do decide to venture outside, we slather our bodies with sunscreen, which prevents the sun reaching our skin to kick-off vitamin D3 production. If you’re not getting enough sun, you may have a vitamin D3 deficiency, which may contribute to low T levels. If you think you need more vitamin D3, supplement it with a pill. Studies have shown that men who take this supplement see a boost in their testosterone levels. Because I have a darker complexion — which makes me prone to Vitamin D3 deficiency — I took 4,000 IU of vitamin D3 in the morning.
    • Omega-3 Fish Oil. Fish oil has been shown to lower SHBG and increase production of Luteinizing Hormone (the hormone responsible for triggering the testes to produce T). Because of the increased amounts of saturated fats and cholesterol I was consuming, I wanted to make sure I had enough of the “good” fats to clear the gunk out of my blood.
    • Whey Protein + Creatine shake. Before my weightlifting workouts I’d mix a scoop of whey protein (I use Jay Robb because it’s all-natural) and a scoop of creatine into unsweetened coconut milk. Just trying to feed my muscles the stuff it needs to rebuild itself after my workout.
    • Caffeine. Use caffeine moderately. Too much of the jittery juice increases cortisol, which decreases testosterone. Moreover, consuming caffeine late in the day hurts sleep, which lowers testosterone production. But one recent study indicates that caffeine consumed before working out may boost testosterone levels and help you exercise more efficiently. During my experiment I popped a piece of caffeinated gum five minutes before my workouts. Each piece had 100 mg of caffeine, about the same amount in a cup of coffee. That was usually it for my caffeine intake that day.
    • Vitamin C (unnecessary). I don’t know where I first heard about vitamin C’s supposed T-boosting benefits, but it’s one of those things you see all over the internet when you Google “how to increase testosterone.” Without trying to find the research that backs up that claim, I took a vitamin C supplement during my experiment. I later found some research that suggests that vitamin C does increase testosterone levels in diabetic mice, but because I wasn’t diabetic (nor a mouse), I’m not sure how much the vitamin C helped. I’ve actually stopped taking vitamin C supplements. I’m likely getting more than enough with my diet. Unless you have diabetes, you probably won’t see much benefit from this supplement. Don’t waste your money.
    • ZMA (unnecessary). So when I researched how to increase testosterone, a supplement called ZMA kept popping up. It’s a blend of zinc, magnesium, and vitamin B6. The purported benefits of ZMA include better and deeper sleep which indirectly is supposed to increase testosterone. Zinc and magnesium are necessary minerals in testosterone production, so a mega-dose should be useful, right? Well, no. I bought some and took it during the duration of experiment. I should have done some more research before I made the purchase. While one study in 1998 showed increased strength among athletes taking ZMA, two recent studies (study 1, study 2) have shown that it has absolutely no effect on total or free testosterone levels. Crap. My advice, unless you have a zinc and magnesium deficiency, no need to waste your money on this.
    What about Tribulus and Stinging Nettle?
    There are several supplements on the market claiming to be natural testosterone boosters. I get these sorts of things in the mail all time. The companies that produce these products claim that the herbs (typically stinging nettle and tribulus) in their pills increase free testosterone by reducing SHBG. They also throw in some B vitamins for “increased energy and vitality.”
    If you read online forums about boosting testosterone, many guys swear by the effectiveness of natural testosterone boosters. The evidence is mixed. A study found that stinging nettle did indeed increase free T in mice, but another study showed no increase in humans. You see the same sort of results with tribulus — works in mice, but not humans.
    With the exception of ZMA, I didn’t take any other purported testosterone boosters.
    Exercise

    Exercise boosts testosterone in two important ways. First, specific types of exercise actually cause our body to produce more testosterone. We’ll talk more about those in a bit. Second, exercise helps to increase muscle mass and decrease body fat. As we’ve discussed previously, adipose tissue converts testosterone into estrogen. The less fat we get, the more T we have.
    Lift Weights
    If you want to increase testosterone, you’ve got to start lifting – and lifting heavy. No, doing a short circuit with the weight machines won’t cut it.
    Here’s what the research says on how to craft your weightlifting routine to maximize testosterone production:
    Two workout plans that I used that meet most of these criteria were the StrongLifts 5×5 and[ame="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AJ8CIQM/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=stucosuccess-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creative ASIN=B00AJ8CIQM"] 5/3/1[/ame]. I primarily used Strong Lifts during the 90-day experiment. I’ve been a fan of the program for years. I recently discovered 5/3/1 and have been pleased with the results I’ve seen with it. I definitely recommend picking up a [ame="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AJ8CIQM/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=stucosuccess-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creative ASIN=B00AJ8CIQM"]copy of the book that lays out the program[/ame].
    HIIT Training
    In addition to weightlifting, studies have shown that HIIT workouts can also help boost testosterone levels. For those of you who don’t know, HIIT stands for high-intensity interval training. It calls for short, intense bursts of exercise, followed by a less-intense recovery period. You repeat with the intense/less-intense cycle several times throughout the workout. In addition to increasing T, HIIT has been shown to improve athletic conditioning and fat metabolism, as well as increase muscle strength.
    You can find a whole bunch of HIIT workouts online, but the one I used during my 90-day experiment was a simple wind sprint routine. On Tuesdays I went to the football field near my house, marked off 40 yards with some cones, and sprinted as fast as I could. I’d slowly walk back to the starting line, giving my body about a minute to rest, and then I’d sprint again. I typically did 40 sets of 40-yard sprints in a workout. I love sprints.
    Don’t overtrain!
    It seems like today it’s a badge of honor to train every day until exhaustion. The ethos is to push yourself harder and harder every day. If that’s your philosophy towards exercise, you might be sabotaging your testosterone levels (as well as your 20 Mile March). Studies have shown that overtraining can reduce testosterone levels significantly. Yes, it’s important to exercise hard, but it’s even more important to give your body rest so it can recuperate from the damage you inflicted upon it.
    Give yourself at least two days during the week when you don’t do any intense exercise at all. Depending on your workouts, more days off might be in order. I typically took the weekends off from intense exercising. I’d go on a light walk or hike, but that was about it.
    Just move more. I tried to be more active throughout the work day. I took breaks every 30 minutes or so to take a walk. I also used a standing desk more often than I usually do.
    Get More and Better Sleep

    Most Americans today are sleep deprived, which may be a contributing factor to declining testosterone levels in men. See, our body makes nearly all the testosterone it needs for the day while we’re sleeping. That increased level of T that we experience at night is one of the reasons we wake up with “Morning Wood.” (If you don’t have Morning Wood on a consistent basis, you might have low T).
    But if you’re not getting enough quality sleep, your body can’t produce testosterone as efficiently or effectively. In one study, researchers at the University of Chicago found that young men who slept less than five hours a night for one week had lower testosterone levels than when they were fully rested. The drop was typically 10-15%.
    Not only does sleep boost T, but it also helps manage cortisol, a stress hormone that has been shown to wreak havoc on testosterone levels when present in high amounts.
    During the month before my experiment, I was definitely sleep deprived. Some nights I was only getting 4 to 5 hours. Testosterone killer! During my experiment I tried to get 8 to 9 hours of sleep at night as consistently as possible. I had to go to bed earlier, but I was only cutting into time that I would have been using to mindlessly surf the net anyway.
    I also took measures to improve the quality of sleep I got. For example, I reduced my exposure to blue light in the evening, reduced my consumption of caffeine in the evenings, and took warm showers before bed. In a future post, I’ll go into more detail about some of the more crazy things I did to improve how well I slept. It was fun.
    Manage Stress

    When we face stress, our adrenal glands secrete cortisol to prepare our bodies and minds to handle the stressful situation — the primal fight-or-flight response. In small dosages, cortisol is fine and even useful, but elevated cortisol levels for prolonged periods can do some serious damage to our bodies and minds. One area that seems to take a hit when cortisol is high is our testosterone levels. Several studies have shown a link between cortisol and testosterone. When cortisol levels are high, testosterone levels are low; and when testosterone levels are high, cortisol levels are low.
    My stress-filled August was likely another factor leading to my low T levels. Knowing about the connection between cortisol and testosterone, I took the following measures to improve my stress management:
    • I mediated for 20 minutes a day.
    • When I started to feel stressed, I got up and went for a walk.
    • I practiced deep breathing exercises.
    • I focused on being more resilient in the face of stress.
    Avoid Xenoestrogens and Other T-Lowering Chemicals

    Many endocrinologists are sounding the alarm about the damaging effects that come with exposure to common household chemicals. Called “endocrine disruptors,” these chemicals interfere with our body’s hormone system and cause problems like weight gain and learning disabilities. One type of endocrine disruptor is particularly bad news for our testosterone levels.
    Xenoestrogen is a chemical that imitates estrogen in the human body. When men are exposed to too much of this estrogen-imitating chemical, T levels drop significantly. The problem is xenoestrogen is freaking everywhere — plastics, shampoos, gasoline, cows, toothpaste. You name it and chances are there are xenoestrogen in it. The ubiquitous nature of this chemical in our modern world is one reason some endocrinologists believe that testosterone levels are lower in men today than in decades past. It’s also a reason doctors say the number of boys born with hypospadias — a birth defect in which the opening of the urethra is on the underside of the penis and not at the tip — has doubled. Note to expecting parents: make sure mom stays away from xenoestrogens during the pregnancy.
    Despite the stacked deck, I did my best to avoid products that contained xenoestrogens during my 90-day experiment. Here’s what I did:
    • Stored food in glassware and never, ever, ever heated food in plastic containers. Most modern plastics contain phthalates. Phthalates are what give plastic their flexibility, durability, and longevity. But they also screw with hormones by imitating estrogen. Because I didn’t want any of those T-draining molecules in my food, I kept all my food in glassware. I also made sure to never heat food in plastic containers, as heat increases the transfer of phthalates into food.
    • Avoided exposure to pesticides and gasoline. Sure the smell of gas is manly, but it contains xenoestrogen. Same goes for pesticides. Limit your exposure to these products. If you do come in contact with them, make sure to wash your hands thoroughly.
    • Eat organic when possible. Pesticides and hormones that are used in our food can imitate estrogens in our body. When possible, eat organic. If budget doesn’t allow, at least make sure to wash your fruits and veggies before eating and find meat and milk that comes from cows that haven’t been treated with hormones.
    • Use natural grooming products. Most grooming products these days contain parabens, another type of xenoestrogen. And by most, I mean more than 75% of all products. To reduce my exposure as much as possible, I became a hippy during my experiment and started using all natural, paraben-free grooming products. You can find most of these items at most health food stores:
      • Jason Shampoo
      • [ame="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001TO3NA/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=stucosuccess-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creative ASIN=B0001TO3NA"]Grandpa’s Pine Tar Soap[/ame]
      • Tom’s of Maine Toothpaste
      • [ame="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007768ZCA/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=stucosuccess-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creative ASIN=B007768ZCA"]Crystal Rock Deodorant [/ame](This deodorant smells good and works pretty well. But by the end of the day you’re going to be kind of stinky. And if you work out the following morning, you’re going to be really stinky. I eventually made the switch back to regular deodorant/antiperspirant post-experiment. Everybody makes trade-offs.)
    • Avoid BPA. Studies suggest that BPA, a chemical that lines food cans and thermal printer paper, may reduce testosterone. I reduced my exposure to BPA as much as I could.
    More Sex

    Testosterone is the fuel that propels our sex drive, but did you know that actually having sex puts fuel in our testosterone tank? That’s right. More sex = more testosterone. So, yeah. Have more sex.
    No, I’m not going to share my experience with this part of the experiment.
    Cold Baths

    Twice a week during my three-month experiment, I took a 15-minute cold bath after my really hard workouts. I did it for a few reasons. I wanted to help with recovery and I was trying to prep myself for the GORUCK Challenge. Another reason was that I thought it could help increase testosterone levels.
    The basis for my thinking that T levels could be boosted by cold baths came from a post I wrote a few years ago on the benefits of cold showers. One benefit I found in my research was that they could increase testosterone levels. I mentioned a 1993 study done by the Thrombosis Research Institute in England that found increased T levels after taking a cold shower. Here’s the thing. I can’t find a link to the original source and I can’t find any other studies that support this claim! So without supporting research, I’m unsure of the effects of cold showers on testosterone.
    I still found the practice beneficial, invigorating, and helpful in building my self-discipline.
    Conclusion

    So that’s what I did to double my testosterone levels in three months. No artificial gels, creams, or injections. Nothing top secret or cool. Just discipline and good livin’. I’m still at pretty much this whole regimen five months later, and I don’t see any reason for stopping.
    Now a few last caveats and comments:
    First, it’s important to note that these tactics and practices to boost testosterone naturally probably won’t work with men who have hypoandrogenism. If the glands and cells responsible for producing testosterone are damaged or defective, no amount of eggs or sleep will help you raise testosterone levels. You’ll likely need to use testosterone replacement therapy to get your T levels to a healthy place.
    Next, while testosterone levels do decline with age, this may simply be because the older that men get, the less they take care of themselves – they stop exercising, start putting on weight, and don’t pay as much attention to their diet. A recent study suggests that age-related T decline is not inevitable, and that if you keep living a healthy lifestyle, you can maintain healthy testosterone levels. So if you’re an older guy, try to do all you can as far as lifestyle changes before you get on the prescription T. I don’t mean doing a little cardio a few times a week, using the machines at the gym, and eating “pretty” healthy. Follow the guidelines above, and see what happens first.
    Finally, these kinds of posts always bring a deluge of questions, mostly focused on, “Can I make an exception to X?” “Can I sub in A for B?” “What if I can’t do C?”
    Tailor the above recommendations to your personal needs and lifestyle. If you’re a vegetarian drop the bacon and steak, but keep the whey protein and eggs. If you have an injury that prevents you from heavy weightlifting, move as much as you can in the way that you can. There are no studies out there which can tell you exactly what will happen if you do X and Y, but not Z. And I certainly can’t tell you either. Don’t be afraid of self-education – that’s how I learned all this – and embrace the idea of conducting your own experiment and being your own test subject. Incorporate as many of the recommendations above as you’re comfortable with, consult your doctor, and track your results.
    Semper virilis.
    “If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
    -Samuel Adams

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Lexington
    Posts
    4,700

    Default

    tl;dr
    1648 Tracker Grizzly
    Yamaha 70 2 stroke


  3. #3
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Blythewood
    Posts
    16,985

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by B.Miller View Post
    tl;dr
    Nerd.
    "Freedom Isn't Free"
    _Spc. Thomas Caughman
    1983-2004

    Quote Originally Posted by Dook View Post
    Go tigers!

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    5,134

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by B.Miller View Post
    tl;dr
    Let me summarize: Eat meat, lift heavy shit, hump a lot, sleep. But all of that I am doing, wanted to see if anyone had any additional tips.
    “If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
    -Samuel Adams

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Lexington
    Posts
    4,700

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by turbo View Post
    Nerd.

    I got through the first paragraph, then saw the length and said F this
    1648 Tracker Grizzly
    Yamaha 70 2 stroke


  6. #6
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Posts
    8,212

    Default

    Thanks for posting that article. It was a good read and I honestly think following his diet might be worth a shot.

    About your test levels, don't be scared to get a second opinion from an endo dr. There are a lot of benefits to keeping test levels at healthy levels, especially in increasing age.

    I currently take DAA 5 days a week, I could tell a difference with my performance after the first week of taking it. It's also cheap.
    Last edited by MolliesMaster; 05-23-2013 at 09:58 AM.
    "This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you." John 15:12

    "Strive for peace with everyone, and for the holiness without which no one will see the Lord." Hebrews 12:14

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Slaytanic/Trendkill
    Posts
    7,542

    Default

    Some of that article's advice is fanatical and borderline neurotic. Other parts of it are great advice. Basic lifts, short but intense workouts, reduce body weight, frequent sex....all good advice.

    That said...I don't think any of the advice will make your T score jump 100 points. And anyone who's already in the low range (not low normal, but low), this won't help you enough to noticeably increase your libido, mood, etc.
    Tell me sump'n. Why you askin' so many jackassy questions?

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Slaytanic/Trendkill
    Posts
    7,542

    Default

    P.S.

    I was warned by a urologist against taking supplements that purport to raise T "naturally" because they can have an unlisted, extra little something [actual anabolic steroids] that can derail your MD's efforts to give you medically approved and regulated SAFE testosterone supplementation.

    I mention this because we're all looking for that "natural" way to boost. It's been documented that some muscle and fitness wonder pills are actually spiked with very high levels of shit like halotestin, etc, etc, without being listed. The danger is you'll think you're just taking a mix of ginseng and what-not and you'll take it for six months and if it does have halotestin or methyltestosterone, etc, you will have ingested quickly metabolizing anabolics that have stephen segalled the fuck out of your liver.

    Go see a doctor who treats Low T. Don't go to GNC, etc.
    Tell me sump'n. Why you askin' so many jackassy questions?

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    5,134

    Default

    Preciate it MM and BF. I don't think I can get referred or treated by an endo because my levels are in the normal range. I will look ask though. I asked that the doc call me back when they called with my results.

    BF, I meant natural as in mainly diet, maybe some vitamins. I try to stay away from supplements for just that reason. They come and go so fast there is not enough testing, they don't realize that its dangerous for years down the road. Take old school creatine for example.

    I'll be right back. Going to pull the wife off her computer and work on one of the recommendations right now.
    Last edited by everlast; 05-23-2013 at 10:15 AM.
    “If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
    -Samuel Adams

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Posts
    8,212

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by badfaulkner View Post
    P.S.

    I was warned by a urologist against taking supplements that purport to raise T "naturally" because they can have an unlisted, extra little something [actual anabolic steroids] that can derail your MD's efforts to give you medically approved and regulated SAFE testosterone supplementation.

    I mention this because we're all looking for that "natural" way to boost. It's been documented that some muscle and fitness wonder pills are actually spiked with very high levels of shit like halotestin, etc, etc, without being listed. The danger is you'll think you're just taking a mix of ginseng and what-not and you'll take it for six months and if it does have halotestin or methyltestosterone, etc, you will have ingested quickly metabolizing anabolics that have stephen segalled the fuck out of your liver.

    Go see a doctor who treats Low T. Don't go to GNC, etc.

    I have never seen a product marked as a test booster that didn't tell you it had something methylated in it. Turn the bottle around and read the "proprietary blend" ingredients list, when you read 17a or 17b methyl, or just the word -methyl- whether it be on the 5a chain or 13 or 17, then you should be concerned. But I get your point.
    Last edited by MolliesMaster; 05-23-2013 at 10:13 AM.
    "This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you." John 15:12

    "Strive for peace with everyone, and for the holiness without which no one will see the Lord." Hebrews 12:14

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Slaytanic/Trendkill
    Posts
    7,542

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by everlast View Post
    Preciate it MM and BF. I don't think I can get referred or treated by an endo because my levels are in the normal range. I will look ask though. I asked that the doc call me back when they called with my results.

    BF, I meant natural as in mainly diet, maybe some vitamins. I try to stay away from supplements for just that reason. They come and go so fast there is not enough testing, they don't realize that its dangerous for year down the road. Take old school creatine for example.
    I posted that PS more for all of the lurkers on here. I didn't figure you for a supplement guy.

    I think your "lower end of normal" T levels are fine quite honestly but the diet and exercise advice in your post sound like a great way for you not to lose any ground until you are much older.

    What was your reading? There's such a wide range of "normal" because some guys can have great libido and vigor with lower levels than others. Unless your ass is dragging and your peter won't salute, I wouldn't try to fix what's not broken (other than good diet and exercise stuff you already do, sounds like).
    Tell me sump'n. Why you askin' so many jackassy questions?

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    5,134

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by MolliesMaster View Post
    I have never seen a product marked as a test booster that didn't tell you it had something methylated in it. Turn the bottle around and read the "proprietary blend" ingredients list, when you read 17a or 17b methyl, or just the word -methyl- whether it be on the 5a chain or 13 or 17, then you should be concerned. But I get your point.
    So MM, from your research test boosting supplements are safe with the exception of those that contain -methyl-? I'm reading up on DAA you recommended
    Last edited by everlast; 05-23-2013 at 10:18 AM.
    “If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
    -Samuel Adams

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    5,134

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by badfaulkner View Post
    I posted that PS more for all of the lurkers on here. I didn't figure you for a supplement guy.

    I think your "lower end of normal" T levels are fine quite honestly but the diet and exercise advice in your post sound like a great way for you not to lose any ground until you are much older.

    What was your reading? There's such a wide range of "normal" because some guys can have great libido and vigor with lower levels than others. Unless your ass is dragging and your peter won't salute, I wouldn't try to fix what's not broken (other than good diet and exercise stuff you already do, sounds like).
    the scale they use is 175 to 600, I was 228. Mood, energy, libido is good. I just figure if I can get closer to the 600 end, probably help with muscle recovery, lower body fat, two chicks at once, etc . But seriously it makes me a little nervous being that close to the bottom of the scale. Not much room for decline before I get really low.
    Last edited by everlast; 05-23-2013 at 10:30 AM.
    “If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
    -Samuel Adams

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Posts
    8,212

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by everlast View Post
    So MM, from your research test boosting supplements are safe with the exception of those that contain methyl?

    NO, the methyl is the reason the liver gets "stephen segall"ed, like tylenol 2.0. The methylation allows the chemical to survive the first pass through your liver, which puts a lot of stress on it.

    I don't buy into all of the supplements or the latest and greatest. But I do think there are several out there that can help you and be safe at the same time.
    -Take a look into DAA, D-aspartic Acid.


    If I had my personal preference it would be treated by a DR. An endo, straight injections 1x a week, yes please. You have the right to go see another physician to seek the referral you need to an endo. There are also some clinics specializing in hormones, clinics scare me, but there is a legit one in Columbia. If you fall into their criteria age, levels, etc. they will help you.
    "This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you." John 15:12

    "Strive for peace with everyone, and for the holiness without which no one will see the Lord." Hebrews 12:14

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Camden, SC
    Posts
    738

    Default

    Low T treatments are there for a reason. you cant naturally boost your test levels back to where they once were because they are on a steady decline everyday. you can take some products that may make you feel better but not totally restore your levels. you may can slow the decline down but not totally escape this cause its gonna happen. hence TRT programs and such from Dr.'s. exercise and diet are your best bet to maintain and feel better but if you lack the energy and desire to do that youre just plain lazy or you need some help from Dr. dont be afraid to ask for help or you can always go to the darkside and get your own supply. just do your research before jumping in. good luck!
    GENESIS 1 : 26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

  16. #16
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Posts
    24,581

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by B.Miller View Post
    I got through the first paragraph, then saw the length and said F this
    They call that the fictitious disease......ADD!
    You've got one life. Blaze on!

  17. #17
    Join Date
    Nov 2001
    Location
    Columbia, SC
    Posts
    48,016

    Default

    low T is caused by pollution.

    Google it.
    Ugh. Stupid people piss me off.

  18. #18
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    5,134

    Default

    I see what you did there

    so does fluoride. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3017333/
    Last edited by everlast; 05-23-2013 at 12:23 PM.
    “If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
    -Samuel Adams

  19. #19
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Parole
    Posts
    5,093

    Default

    Flouride!

    If your T is 220, an endocrinologist can change that no problem. The T scale is changing on the low end all the time. Don't screw around with a family doctor. Go to the endocrinologist.

  20. #20
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Johnston
    Posts
    22,448

    Default

    Tren
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars Bluff View Post
    Only thing we need to be wearing in this country are ass whippings & condoms. That'll clear up half our issues.

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •