Police Dashcam Footage Of Philando Castile Fatal Shooting

[Coastal Woodie]

I got pulled for going 63 in a 45 when my cruise was set on 44.. Funny huh?

I can believe it, I was riding with my dad on the way to fish a tournament one morning when he was pulled for going 62 in a 45. But yet we had just pulled out of a gas station and he wasn't even going 30mph.

The officer was extremely nervous acting when he was informed of the pistol under the front seat.

[turbo]

I can believe it, I was riding with my dad on the way to fish a tournament one morning when he was pulled for going 62 in a 45. But yet we had just pulled out of a gas station and he wasn't even going 30mph.

The officer was extremely nervous acting when he was informed of the pistol under the front seat.

Weird.

That's illegal in this state.

[Coastal Woodie]

Weird.

That's illegal in this state.

Not with a CWP

[duckman88]

From this angle and perspective the shooting was justifiable. I think he used too much fire power but I wasn't in the situation and may have done the same out of fear. Clearly he was scared to death by his use of words and actions afterwards.

We are all going to draw our own conclusions from the video but he didn't sound scared to death to me, he sounded like someone a) who just shot someone and b) had doubts about whether that was the right decision.

The cop appears to be super on edge (I understand some of that could be because they fit a description of possible robbery suspects) but, if you are that jumpy when someone openly tells you they are carrying a weapon, you don't need to be a cop. I think it boils down to a terrible miscommunication about his wallet/gun that resulted in him losing his life.

[Geetch]

The third taillight out is what caused him to lose his life.

[PBiz]

How is this shooting justifiable?


It's a terrible choice by someone who is sworn to protect and serve...

Now a young man is dead..

[Geetch]

it isnt justifiable in my mind. The cop could have retreated especially given the presence of the child. Two steps to the right and the cop would have been out of the line of fire or at least in a safer position. If the driver had intent to shoot the cop I don't think he would have told him about the gun.

But cops are gonna cop and fall back on their three to six months of "us versus then" and "as long as we go home safe" indoctrination.

[WhitewaterDuck]

I'm hope some of y'all aren't cops! The dood told him, while he was shuffling for license and registration, that he had a firearm like he was supposed to do. What logic would make anyone on here believe that he told the cop he had a legal weapon...just as he was instructed and required by law to do...then decided to try to pull it out after the cop freaked the f*^k out and drew down on him screaming not to pull it out? Mr. Castile clearly said "I'm, I'm, I'm reaching for"..(likely trying to explain that he was in the process of reaching for his insurance proof or registration or CWP) But gets cut off by continued frantic yelling of cop. Realizing that this cop is a hair away from capping him, he switches from telling cop what he had been reaching for and clear as a bell states "I'm NOT pulling it out!" as the cop empties his gun merely seconds after being told by the driver that he was armed.

It does indeed appear that Mr. Castile was possibly guilty of having a tail light out...maybe the third brake light too. Funny how when I drive my wife's VW bus or my FILs corvair spyder I don't get pulled for not having a third brake light or a shoulder belt. But yep, a dim or burned out drivers side tail light and possibly a burned out third brake light...but both L and R brake lights illuminated when he was braking to pull over, so officer was at best wrong...more likely full of shit...which shows in his bumbling rendition of why he was pulling him over...folks tend to not stumble all over simple words and phrases when they aren't exaggerating or bullshitting. They made a bullshit stop to look for more; they didn't have to look, as the guy obeyed the law and told them about his gun, and officer Hoppy lost his shit and murdered the guy.

So if I go into a convenience store and run into someone carrying open and yell at him not to reach for his gun as he's reaching for his wallet to pay for his smokes, do I get a pass if I draw and unload my gun in his chest?

We need to be outraged that Michael Browns parents are going to get millions because the thug gat shot being a thug. We need to be outraged that the Furgeson cop's career is ruined. But we also need to be outraged every time a cop...or as Juan Williams likes to say...a "trained professional" makes a huge mistake like this and then walks Scott free because he "feared for his life." This is the bullshit that gives the terrorists fascists of BLM enough legitimacy to have the staying power and recruitment success they have enjoyed.

And yes, he should have kept hands on wheel and then told of weapon right off the bat...life happens and it did not go down that way, but the man should never have been shot once, let alone full clipped.

[WhitewaterDuck]

I heard the same thing. I listened to it a few times trying to see if he said I'm not going to pull it out. But it sounded like Imma have to pull it out.

I'm generally not for additional requirements for CWP, but I have to admit the time spent covering your interaction with law enforcement in the CWP classes is worth it on it's own.

The guy is well spoken. The I'm I'm I'm. Is him trying to explain what he was reaching for as he's staring down a clearly unstable/unhinged cops barrel. And after hearing the man speak very well and very clearly and very calmly at the beginning of the stop, somehow y'all both hear him decide to switch his linguistic style to one line of Ebonics ..."Ima have to pull it out!?!?" Wow.

[Duck cutter]

If my gun is not on my person ( carrying concealed) I keep it in a different compartment than the insurance/ registration and I make no mention of it whatsoever.

If I am carrying concealed, my conversation with the officer goes like this (window is down before he walks up and hands are on the wheel) : " How you doing today, officer? I need to let you know that I have a cwp and am carrying a weapon on my right hand side. That is also the same side that my wallet is on".

officer: " Thanks, son. I appreciate you letting me know. move nice and slow while you reach for your wallet and let's both go home safe."

I have NEVER had an issue and have only ever had one cop ask for my gun. and it was weird that he did because we go to church together. I think he was just on a power trip and wanted to look good.

[Woodiewacker82]

Bad situation and the guy didn't help his cause any. Mistakes made by both parties here but from what I could see that cop should have been found guilty. Some people have no business being LEO.


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[marsh chicken]

He was told not to reach for his weapon. I don't give a shit if he told the cop he had a gun or not. If he reached for it after being told not to touch it 3x..well then I guess he got what was coming to him. It doesn't take but a split second to get your ass shot.

[WhitewaterDuck]

If my gun is not on my person ( carrying concealed) I keep it in a different compartment than the insurance/ registration and I make no mention of it whatsoever.

If I am carrying concealed, my conversation with the officer goes like this (window is down before he walks up and hands are on the wheel) : " How you doing today, officer? I need to let you know that I have a cwp and am carrying a weapon on my right hand side. That is also the same side that my wallet is on".

officer: " Thanks, son. I appreciate you letting me know. move nice and slow while you reach for your wallet and let's both go home safe."

I have NEVER had an issue and have only ever had one cop ask for my gun. and it was weird that he did because we go to church together. I think he was just on a power trip and wanted to look good.

Thanks for sharing that info; I will use this to a T next time I am stopped.

[Duck cutter]

Thanks for sharing that info; I will use this to a T next time I am stopped.

works every time, guaranteed!!

[duckman88]

He was told not to reach for his weapon. I don't give a shit if he told the cop he had a gun or not. If he reached for it after being told not to touch it 3x..well then I guess he got what was coming to him. It doesn't take but a split second to get your ass shot.

This is where I think the confusion ensues. He was a law abiding citizen who told the officer he had a gun. Officer sees him reaching for something and assumes it is the gun (as have many of you). Officer tells him don't reach for it. Why would any sane person keep reaching for their gun with gun drawn on them and commands not to? Panic in the moment, maybe but, IMO, he wasn't reaching for his gun. As I said before, I think there was a lot of miscommunication and a way too jumpy officer.

[marsh chicken]

This is where I think the confusion ensues. He was a law abiding citizen who told the officer he had a gun. Officer sees him reaching for something and assumes it is the gun (as have many of you). Officer tells him don't reach for it. Why would any sane person keep reaching for their gun with gun drawn on them and commands not to? Panic in the moment, maybe but, IMO, he wasn't reaching for his gun. As I said before, I think there was a lot of miscommunication and a way too jumpy officer.

Sane people do stupid shit all the time. So what should the cop have done? Told him three more times not to reach for the gun and hope he doesn't actually get shot? Fuck that. If your told more than once not to reach for something. Stop moving.

[WhitewaterDuck]

He was told not to reach for his weapon. I don't give a shit if he told the cop he had a gun or not. If he reached for it after being told not to touch it 3x..well then I guess he got what was coming to him. It doesn't take but a split second to get your ass shot.

I agree with that 100%. If, however, he was pulling his wallet or CWP out or reaching for it as he informed officer of gun...
and then tried to explain what he was reaching for and stated he was not pulling his gun out as officer makes assumption that, despite having just asked him for license and insurance, he was instead pulling his gun that he calmly admitted having without even being asked...then it was an overreaction and a bad shooting. The guy messed up by trying to comply with officers first requests while simultaneously trying to do right and inform him of his carry status...real life speed and circumstances...edgy cop freaked and shot despite never, ever being in any sort of danger. I understand it, but it was a mistake by a professional that resulted in death...not a justified shooting.

A lot of people are carrying and have never thought about how a traffic stop should or will go down...never once thought this scenario could happen to them. I've thought about it, but not to the extent that I have since seeing this video, and how I always thought about handeling it was not nearly as thought out and on point as what Duck Cutter just described.
Castile certainly didn't think enough about it, ran into the wrong cop, and lost his life trying to do the right thing at a traffic stop for a burned out light bulb.

[uga_dawg]

The guy is well spoken. The I'm I'm I'm. Is him trying to explain what he was reaching for as he's staring down a clearly unstable/unhinged cops barrel. And after hearing the man speak very well and very clearly and very calmly at the beginning of the stop, somehow y'all both hear him decide to switch his linguistic style to one line of Ebonics ..."Ima have to pull it out!?!?" Wow.

Yeah you got me. I hate black people. And that was why I said that. Because I assumed he was speaking ebonics.

Come on man. If you look up the original story I was behind this guy. But after hearing the audio it's clear to me he fucked up. It's a terrible situation. But at 1:04 he gave the officer something. Then he said I have a firearm on me. The cop was actually pretty cool. He said ok, don't pull it out. And he never was looking down the barrel of the gun. The officer drew it but kept it at his side.

Then the driver said what I can only interpret as I'm I'm I'm have to pull it out. Then he pulled something out and was shot. It was a dumbass decision by both and maybe the cop shouldn't be a cop. But I don't see how he can be convicted of murder based on what I saw.

[banded_mallard]

He already had his gun drawn, to me anything short of him actually presenting the firearm, is a no shoot situation. If I were on the jury it would have been hung or he would have been found guilty. This is the cops fault. I agree with prosecuting cops for stuff like this is a slippery slope. However sooner or later something has to be done.

[duckman88]

Sane people do stupid shit all the time. So what should the cop have done? Told him three more times not to reach for the gun and hope he doesn't actually get shot? Fuck that. If your told more than once not to reach for something. Stop moving.

Based on how he reacted as soon as the guy told him he was carrying a weapon the cop shouldn't have been a cop.