baiting

[rockfish]

Finally got water in my pond and was wondering is it legal to bait if you are not going to hunt the pond. Just want the ducks to get used to it and entise them a bit. Someone said it is illegal no matter whether you hunt it or not. Just trying to do the right thing. Thanks for the help!

[jwilliams]

I would put enough corn in it to raise the water 6 inches. give them food, warmth, and love. just make sure that you are strong enough to resist the temptation. You will upset a few applecarts, but don't sweat it. Get em used to using your pond.......don't go runnin em up every week to look at em, either.

Let's see who you are hunting near.......

[JABIII]

It is legal to feed them as long as you are positive that the pond won't be hunted by anyone. You do need to be aware that per federal regs, any ducks that are being influenced by that bait would be illegal to shoot including ducks passing over a river or swamp on their way into your pond...

[tradorion]

but you are NOT your brothers keeper... on YOUR land/water you can feed all you want to as long as you don't hunt it (or knowingly allow others to hunt it)... as noted this can raise issue with neighbors (you're stealing my ducks!)and also with people who may come to your locale to hunt (although by the law they have to have a reasonable persons belief that the ducks they were hunting were being taken by the aid of bait...)-

bait/feed has been used by some plantations on the coast and up on Lake Murray among other places to control (public) hunting activity which then causes a whole nuther hair to be split...

T

[JABIII]

Good points, T...

[Turd Ferguson]

Originally posted by tradorion:

bait/feed has been used by some plantations on the coast and up on Lake Murray among other places to control (public) hunting activity which then causes a whole nuther hair to be split...

T

Indeed Trad- they even go as far as putting up professionally painted and installed permanent 2x3 signs reading---- NO HUNTING_BAITED FIELD
directly on the river to attempt to rid themselves of the "river necks" all while they hunt the opposite side of the river. Boats were hunting directly in front of their signs last year, killing more birds than the ORVIS hunters in the field- I guess they cant see them signs across the river either
LIKE THE "A" TEAM-- Ya gotta just love it when a plan comes together.

TRAD_ ya reckon Troy is still mad at us for supposedly swamping him last year? I hope not- hate it when the man in GREEN is mad at ya! Hell he ought not be sneaking up on people like that!

[GMAC]

DNR itself used to bait Mosquito Creek to keep the hunters away from South Island.

[Nab]

JABIII has baited their place before too! Remember the ultimate sacrifice as our newly elected official called it!
Of course they were hunting Arkansas that yr and just had to protect "their" ducks - couldn't have ay public hunter bothering the ducks while they were gone. Johnny, did you ever send that corn to the refuge?

[Rubberhead*]

It could be considered "Interfering with a lawful hunt" to bait an area that would affect the use public property.

[JABIII]

Originally posted by Nab:
JABIII has baited their place before too! Remember the ultimate sacrifice as our newly elected official called it!
Of course they were hunting Arkansas that yr and just had to protect "their" ducks - couldn't have ay public hunter bothering the ducks while they were gone. Johnny, did you ever send that corn to the refuge?

OF course what Nad leaves out is the REASON we had to feed ducks and go elsewhere to hunt that season. But sacrifice and actually doing something for the ducks isn't something he has ever been able to wrap his little mind around...

[jwilliams]

I would skip any bags and put a gravity wagon on site.,...I would only measure the corn in 1000's of pounds. You can pull birds for miles and miles.

[BOGSTER]

what was the REASON??

[JABIII]

It's been posted ad infinitum.Look it up..

[BOGSTER]

i can't find anything other than this thread.

[mirroman]

Days of Our Lives should be on right now. You would be more interested in it...

[jwilliams]

I see nothing wrong with it, Jab. I may fire up your neighbors when their corn ponds only have black birds flying over, but too bad, so sad.

Load em up. Good for the birds. Shoot, load up the refuge, too. won't hurt my feelings.

[Swamp Rat]

There is nothing wrong with baiting private water that isn't going to be hunted.

With the refuges being in such sad shape, and so few impoundments (flooded standing corn) going without being shot, good duck areas that can be used, even for just one season, to hold birds can do nothing but GOOD things - especially when it comes to maintaining fidelity to an area.

Now, for JAB's situation, they decided not to shoot their place for an entire season - a place with a lot of $$ invested in the crops and so forth. They allowed further baiting and then netting/banding of birds there by DNR. They did more good for the ducks than any folks that year (and in other years), especially more than me.

I will thank them profusely for that sacrifice.

I will not question their motives - it's their land, and, to suggest that it's anybody but their business is wrong.

[BOGSTER]

Easy fellas, i wasn't bashing the man.
I just didn't know what the hell he was talking about.
I see nothing wrong with it, I too have a couple places i feed the ducks just to give them refuge from the lake.

[Swamp Rat]

You weren't ruffling any feathers, Bog - no sweat.

[Nab]

JABIII - really didn't have a problem with ya'll supplementing ya'll's place with the corn, but do have a problem when doing the same thing at the refuge is not right and unfair.
Ya'll put out corn because the ringnecks were eating the planted stuff and ya'll we're hunting Arkansas anyway that year - it would have just been terrible for some of those ducks to go to the refuge or the swamp now wouldn't it.
I am glad you helped keep some ducks in the area though - just don't like how the info get's turned around to always make what you do seem "good".
Now, I'll let this thing die as long as we can still count on your help this coming year to get some things changed that will end up helping everybody - still got your pm.
Thanks.