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    Texas deputy to pay price for defending self
    By Jerry Seper
    THE WASHINGTON TIMES
    February 2, 2007


    A Texas deputy sheriff who fired shots at a fleeing vehicle after the driver tried to run him down faces 10 years in prison for injuring one of the passengers, a Mexican national being smuggled illegally into the United States.
    The U.S. attorney, who won lengthy prison terms last year for two U.S. Border Patrol agents in the shooting of a drug-smuggling suspect, also prosecuted Edwards County Deputy Sheriff Guillermo F. Hernandez, who is to be sentenced next month.
    The deputy's boss, Sheriff Donald G. Letsinger, said his officer -- who had been on the job for a year -- "followed the letter of the law" in defending himself in the April 2005 incident and questioned why the government brought charges.
    "This is a fine young man, and I just don't believe he committed the wrong of which he was accused," Sheriff Letsinger said. "I have never had anything hurt me so badly as this prosecution. We've got to make this right."
    Rep. Ted Poe, Texas Republican, called the prosecution and conviction of Hernandez, known to his friends as "Gilmer," "another example of how the federal government is more concerned about people [who are] illegally invading America than it is about the men who protect America."
    "Once again, our government is on the wrong side of the border war," Mr. Poe said.
    The deputy's Dec. 1 conviction has enraged his hometown of Rocksprings, Texas, population 1,250, where "Free Gilmer" signs have been posted. The Baptist church is paying the deputy's mortgage and others have come up with costs for the family's truck, propane and water bills.
    Hernandez, 25, and his wife, Ashley, have a 4-month-old daughter.
    "The town is outraged that this has happened to our deputy," said the Rev. Albert Green, pastor at the First Baptist Church. "Those people were in this country illegally, and they tried to run him down. They were the criminals, but the prosecutors made our deputy out to be the criminal.
    "I do not know a single person who doesn't feel Gilmer was prosecuted for doing his job," said Mr. Green, who is the deputy's pastor. "I do not know a finer, more well-behaved gentleman. He would not purposely or willfully hurt anyone."
    U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton, appointed in October 2001 by President Bush, said Hernandez fired shots at the vehicle as it sped away "knowing it was occupied with the nine individuals," at least seven of whom were illegal aliens -- some of whom later were called to testify for the government.
    Hernandez was convicted after a jury trial in U.S. District Court in Del Rio, Texas, 75 miles southwest of Rocksprings -- found guilty of violating "under the color of law" the civil rights of Maricela Rodriguez-Garcia, a Mexican national.

    The woman was struck in the lip by bullet or other metal fragments after an 11:50 p.m. traffic stop in Rocksprings in April 2005. Reports said Hernandez fired shots at the blue Chevrolet Suburban's rear tires as it sped off after being stopped for running a red light.
    Acquitted on a second count regarding injury to another passenger, he will be sentenced March 12 at the Del Rio court.
    Assistant U.S. Attorney Bill Baumann, who prosecuted the case, told reporters that the law does not give law-enforcement officers the right to use "deadly force to stop a car unless it poses an imminent threat to the officer or another person. If the car is going away from you, it's not even a close call."
    Mr. Sutton's office convicted Border Patrol agents Ignacio Ramos, 37, and Jose Alonso Compean, 28, on charges of causing serious bodily injury, assault with a deadly weapon, discharge of a firearm in a crime of violence and a civil rights violation. They were sentenced to 11 and 12 years, respectively.
    Shana Jones, spokeswoman for Mr. Sutton, did not return calls for comment yesterday.
    Sheriff Letsinger said an investigation found that Hernandez approached the vehicle and found only the driver was sitting upright and suspected the others were illegal aliens. He said the driver, after being asked to step out of the vehicle, pulled forward and turned into Hernandez -- fleeing from what the sheriff described as the deputy's "legal stop."
    Thinking the driver had tried to run him over, he said Hernandez fired at the vehicle's rear tires. He said at least one of the people inside the vehicle confirmed that the driver had turned it into the deputy.
    Sheriff Letsinger, with three deputies to handle all law-enforcement matters in a 2,000-square-mile county, called the Texas Rangers after the incident to investigate what happened. He said he also called the Mexican Consulate because Mexican nationals were involved, and the consulate later notified the FBI.
    The Rangers' incident report, the sheriff said, noted that after firing shots, Hernandez returned to his patrol car, notified dispatch and pursued the vehicle until it crashed into a fence -- at which time the occupants, except for Mrs. Rodriguez-Garcia, fled.
    Mrs. Rodriguez-Garcia, Ivonne Hernandez Morales and Candido Garcia Perez, all occupants in the vehicle, told investigators that they paid $2,000 to be taken across the Rio Grande from Acuna, Mexico. They said they later met the vehicle's driver and a guide, who were to take them to Austin and Dallas.
    Sheriff Letsinger also said the Rangers and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) agents, using dogs and metal detectors, found four shell casings at the traffic stop site but none at the crash site -- discounting claims by two of the vehicle's occupants that Hernandez fired shots at them as they fled the vehicle.
    The Texas Rangers did not respond to calls yesterday.
    Noting that prosecutors offered the deputy probation in exchange for a guilty plea, the sheriff said, "This young man didn't do anything wrong and wasn't about to say he had. I think that speaks to his character."
    In the Border Patrol case, Ramos and Compean testified that they shot Osbaldo Aldrete-Davila in the buttocks only after he assaulted Compean and pointed a weapon at both of them. Prosecutors and later a federal jury in El Paso disagreed. Aldrete-Davila abandoned 743 pounds of marijuana before fleeing back into Mexico.
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    Man damn we have some problems in our Country.
    Be proactive about improving public waterfowl habitat in South Carolina. It's not going to happen by itself, and our help is needed. We have the potential to winter thousands of waterfowl on public grounds if we fight for it.

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    This guy represented himself with the Atty General prosecuting him??? [img]graemlins/shakehead.gif[/img]

    A slick atty could have argued that the driver is the one who jeapordized the occupents of the vehicle because he knew, (or should have known due to ignorance of the law is not an excuse) the SOP of an officer who has been placed in jeapordy or assaulted in this case is to use any means neccesary to stop the threat to himself and to other civilians. They need to appeal and find themselves a good Philadelphia Atty.
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    Vigilante Justice coming to a town near you. Once landowners determine that our Govt cant do anything to stop them the people will- Shame the flood gates are still open.

    Its a shame the landowners cant take matters into their own hands- Illegal aliens should be wounded on site- hands removed so they cant earn a living. Why we continue to let our nation to go hell in a handbasket is beyond me---This is what happens when people become so dependent on a government- they forget how to defend themselves and their property-- The border problem could be solved with a Sombrero Season. I think the border control agents crack a shot or two more than we hear about.

    Now we have banks offering to set up illegal interest bearing accounts for Juan and Lopez even though they have no SS#-- these accounts are FDIC insured for crying out loud-- We are idiots for allowing shit like this--The bank refuses to turn over names of aliens to Police--
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    Looks like we are gonna have to start standing at the border and shake there hands when they come across, Saying welcome, bring as much drugs as you'd like to, invite all your family and cousins, and we'll give you "40 acres of land and a mule" cause we're your friends

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    Americans are too friendly.
    They are a DRAIN on society.
    I see no problem with people that come here legally, but the illegals have to go.
    Bottom line--The US needs a group that is specifically for these bastards.
    I'm not talking INS, I mean a group whose sole job is to find Illegals and bring them to justice.
    IF THEY DON'T HAVE A GREEN CARD--THEY GO BACK.
    If they are caught again, they are shot.
    Yes, it sounds cruel, but I assure it will get the point across.
    Julio doesn't want to get shot, i assure you.
    And julio won't come over the border if his best friend was SHOT on spot last week.
    Give the border patrol permission to shoot anyone that comes across.
    If a woman comes over to have her baby, take her to the hospital, let her have her child, then ship both their happy asses back to Mexico.
    I am so sick of these people.
    Just the other day I met my little sister at the gas station to give here some money for gas.
    When I got there, she had both of her doors locked because a car full of fernandos were harassing here.
    When I pulled up and got out, they smiled at me and drove off.
    She was terrified.
    She told me they had come to her window twice, holding a cellphone up, saying "number".
    They are a drain on society and a threat to the future of our social security.
    Start popping caps and they will get the picture.
    My opinion may seem harsh, but I am so sick of the "well, you really aren't supposed to be here, but since your here, and you've already had kids here, we won't bother you" approach.
    If you want to see REAL improvement, you will have to start busting some ass.
    Be proactive about improving public waterfowl habitat in South Carolina. It's not going to happen by itself, and our help is needed. We have the potential to winter thousands of waterfowl on public grounds if we fight for it.

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    The solution to illegals is fairly simple one. All we have to do is deny them any benefits from the government like education, health care, welfare, drivers licenses or whatever. The second thing we have to do is impose stiff penalties for any business caught hiring these people. If they can't get jobs or free government hand outs then they will go back home. It is pathetic that no one in government wants to address the issue of illegals. Thank political correctness for that.

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    They won't address it Jbeck because they depend on the Illegals to work.
    See, the illegals take the jobs that we don't want to do.
    So many companies would be in a hot seat if they lost their little burrito workers.
    We are doing this to ourselves.
    Be proactive about improving public waterfowl habitat in South Carolina. It's not going to happen by itself, and our help is needed. We have the potential to winter thousands of waterfowl on public grounds if we fight for it.

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    "we are doing this to ouselves."

    yep...only because most americans are fat and lazy and dont know the meaning of a hard days' work. the immigrants are willing to work.
    Ugh. Stupid people piss me off.

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    The Attorney General is a Latino, from Texas, go figure.
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    That is total [img]graemlins/bs.gif[/img] . Incredible!! Just think, if Hilary becomes president, you think we have problems now.

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    Originally posted by buckshot1224:
    Anybody willing to load up for Canada?
    Canada hell...they will take your guns there.

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    Once again....you all bitch and whine but are you doing you're part? Hell, no you aren't......you bitch about mexicans being on your landscape crew, your carpentry crew - FUCK YOU - dumbasess, you hired them OR you let them take the jobs from YOU!!!!! Soo what if they work here, the problem I have is their lack of law.......the fact they don't understand you need a driver's license......It is a simple fix. And in time they will fix it and be just as legal as anybody else..........And the American who "needs" $20 an hour will be forced out on his "own free will"......Tragic? No - greedy and incoherent............that is the American way. I served my country and my state - what have you done you cowardly sissy??????????

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    Greenbean had to delete your subsequent post due to the racial slurs..... rethink your approach and discuss this like an adult please.........

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    Go easy on the uppers Greenboy!
    I didn't hire shit!
    I have had nothing to do with them from the start.
    The only ones I was in agreement to were MIGRANT workers.
    They went home after 6 months.
    Now, their cousins on the other hand, want to stay and pay nothing.
    Be proactive about improving public waterfowl habitat in South Carolina. It's not going to happen by itself, and our help is needed. We have the potential to winter thousands of waterfowl on public grounds if we fight for it.

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